Password

[Urwen]

Over to Pervinca.

[Pervinca Took]

OK. I have one back at the office. (The one I hadn't yet written the clues for early yesterday evening).

Back soon.

[Pervinca Took]

Told you! Here it is:

1. Mother returns – back to the Ford, almost – for him.
2. Invert direction of winding suburban French train. Why, we hear? For him!
3. Primate runs back for him, vowel-shifting in the process!
4. See a dwarf caper around for him!
5. He returns, but to no German village.

[Huinesoron]

5. A German village, I think, is a Dorf. Add a 0 ('no') and (re)turn it, you get FRODO.



hS

[Galadriel55]

3. Rumil, from lemur.

[Urwen]

I am assuming that a 'dwarf' means 'miner' again.

[Pervinca Took]

1. Mother returns – back to the Ford, almost – for him.
2. Invert direction of winding suburban French train. Why, we hear? For him!
RUMIL: Primate runs back for him, vowel-shifting in the process!
4. See a dwarf caper around for him!
FRODO: He returns, but to no German village.

I'm pretty sure this dwarf mines, (given half a chance!), but we're not calling him 'miner' on this occasion.

[Urwen]

I think it's Oin or Ori, because only they make sense.


Back to clue 1, is Ford a car or a surname?

[Urwen]

French translation of suburban train is 'un train de banlieue'. Is this what we're supposed to use?

[Urwen]

If there was a word 'almost' in the clue, I'd say it's OROPHIN (OIN+ROMP) for clue 4.

Or maybe OROPHIN (ORI+HOP)

[Huinesoron]

French translation of suburban train is 'un train de banlieue'. Is this what we're supposed to use?

I know that in German, there are specific names for different styles of train (U-bahn/S-bahn); not sure if the same applies in French.

If Rumil is Rumil of Tirion, we might be looking at scholars.

Or, of course, Lorien if he's the Marchwarden.

hS

[Pervinca Took]

1. Mother returns – back to the Ford, almost – for him.
2. Invert direction of winding suburban French train. Why, we hear? For him!
RUMIL: Primate runs back for him, vowel-shifting in the process!
OROPHIN: See a dwarf caper around for him!
FRODO: He returns, but to no German village.

It IS OROPHIN, but it's NORI + HOP, so no need for 'almost.'

[Urwen]

And if Frodo is Frodo Gardner, then he has six brothers, one of which has to be one of the remaining clues....

[Pervinca Took]

I know that in German, there are specific names for different styles of train (U-bahn/S-bahn); not sure if the same applies in French.

If Rumil is Rumil of Tirion, we might be looking at scholars.

Or, of course, Lorien if he's the Marchwarden.

hS

There is a particular service that serves the suburbs of a particular French city. Or at least, there was twenty-seven years ago. I doubt they would have torn it out, though.

[Huinesoron]

French translation of suburban train is 'un train de banlieue'. Is this what we're supposed to use?

Apparently the Paris suburbs have a train system called the RER. 'Why, we hear' must mean add a Y/I... could #2 be MERRY? It has RER + Y, and M is what you get if you invert the initial direction of 'winding' (ie, it's an upside-down W).

hS

[Huinesoron]

And if that's right, then the password is AMROD, and #1 is AMRAS - reversed MA, plus reversed 'SAR' which is nearly reversed 'car'.

hS

[Urwen]

Password: Amrod?

[Urwen]

Ninjaed. :(

[Urwen]

Make it easier than your usual ones, please.

[Pervinca Took]

Apparently the Paris suburbs have a train system called the RER. 'Why, we hear' must mean add a Y/I... could #2 be MERRY? It has RER + Y, and M is what you get if you invert the initial direction of 'winding' (ie, it's an upside-down W).

hS

Exactement!

Ou - presque exactement. ;)

'Winding' means twist RER to ERR.

'Invert' is invert the direction letter (W) for the M.

[Huinesoron]

Make it easier than your usual ones, please.

Given that you lot have been scattering anagrams, mid-word password letters, and straight clues which read, in their entirety, 'him', I can't see that you can reasonably call me difficult.

Unless you mean that I have a tendency to use stuff which doesn't come quickly to mind, in which case: guilty as charged.

hS

[Urwen]

Given that you lot have been scattering anagrams, mid-word password letters, and straight clues which read, in their entirety, 'him', I can't see that you can reasonably call me difficult.

Unless you mean that I have a tendency to use stuff which doesn't come quickly to mind, in which case: guilty as charged.

hS

Well, it's hard to come up with themed passwords while only using first letters (Though I did manage it with my last two passwords. ;))

[Pervinca Took]

AMRAS: Mother returns – back to the Ford, almost – for him.
MERRY: Invert direction of winding suburban French train. Why, we hear? For him!
RUMIL: Primate runs back for him, vowel-shifting in the process!
OROPHIN: See a dwarf caper around for him!
FRODO: He returns, but to no German village.

THEME: BROTHERS

Correct, except that it's MA reversed, then most of SARN (Ford) reversed, for Amras.

(Sarn Ford is in the Shire, I believe).

Over to Huey!

[Huinesoron]

Well, it's hard to come up with themed passwords while only using first letters (Though I did manage it with my last two passwords. ;))

I... disagree? All my passwords have been themed, and either used first letters or included specific pointers in the clue to say which letter you need.

It just involves a lot of discarding possible passwords because you can't find the clues that fit. :)

hS

[Urwen]

Also, be glad, for if I had my way, most of my passwords would go: Maeglin Turin Lalaith - repeat ad infinituim at your leisure. :p)

[Huinesoron]

All right, here we go:

1. If you want to play, shortly pay in what sounds like a dour, frozen world with a different note.
2. Alternately, it's ok, thank the Sea for the toothed summit.
3. It doesn't matter... or bottom, don't light any fires.
4. If you hear a greeting (or more than one) before the Elvish city, look to the west.
5. It's bad, but you need Marie's bane inside - duh, pretty much. Take a third of what one founded.

hS

[Urwen]

3. Weathertop (WHETHER+TOP)

[Urwen]

5. It's bad, but you need Marie's bane inside - duh, pretty much. Take a third of what one founded.

hS


Interesting, for that's my given name, and I have only one bane and he goes by Quenya name of Lomion.

[Huinesoron]

3. Weathertop (WHETHER+TOP)

1. If you want to play, shortly pay in what sounds like a dour, frozen world with a different note.
2. Alternately, it's ok, thank the Sea for the toothed summit.
WEATHERTOP - It doesn't matter... or bottom, don't light any fires.
4. If you hear a greeting (or more than one) before the Elvish city, look to the west.
5. It's bad, but you need Marie's bane inside - duh, pretty much. Take a third of what one founded.

Interesting, for that's my given name, and I have only one bane and he goes by Quenya name of Lomion.

Oops! Well, it's not you (so far as I know... :eek:), and this bane was of the more permanent variety.

It's also nothing to do with Maeglin, I promise. :)

hS

[Urwen]

1. If you want to play, shortly pay in what sounds like a dour, frozen world with a different note.
2. Alternately, it's ok, thank the Sea for the toothed summit.
WEATHERTOP - It doesn't matter... or bottom, don't light any fires.
4. If you hear a greeting (or more than one) before the Elvish city, look to the west.
5. It's bad, but you need Marie's bane inside - duh, pretty much. Take a third of what one founded.



Oops! Well, it's not you (so far as I know... :eek:), and this bane was of the more permanent variety.

It's also nothing to do with Maeglin, I promise. :)

hS


I wish it did.....

[Urwen]

Greeting is 'Hi'. Elvish city is probably Tirion. West is W.

[Galadriel55]

2. Orthanc, meaning Mount Fang? Alternatively = or, + thank without k (0 k), + sea = c.

[Urwen]

Password: Downs
Theme: Places in Eriador.

Let's see if I got the password and the theme based on a single letter. :D

[Galadriel55]

TOWER for password?

5. Barad-dur? Bad + Ra + du(h)

Edit: Crossed with Urwen

[Huinesoron]

Greeting is 'Hi'. Elvish city is probably Tirion. West is W.

No, yes, and no.

2. Orthanc, meaning Mount Fang? Alternatively = or, + thank without k (0 k), + sea = c.

Yes, precisely. :)

Password: Downs
Theme: Places in Eriador.

Let's see if I got the password and the theme based on a single letter. :D

No, and no.

TOWER for password?

5. Barad-dur? Bad + Ra + du(h)

Edit: Crossed with Urwen

Yes, and yes. Ra is Radium, which gave Marie Curie cancer. And 'take a third' points to the third letter, so...

T - If you want to play, shortly pay in what sounds like a dour, frozen world with a different note.
ORTHANC - Alternately, it's ok, thank the Sea for the toothed summit.
WEATHERTOP - It doesn't matter... or bottom, don't light any fires.
E - If you hear a greeting (or more than one) before the Elvish city, look to the west.
BARAD-DUR - It's bad, but you need Marie's bane inside - duh, pretty much. Take a third of what one founded.

Two to go!

hS

[Urwen]

5. Elostirion? (OLE+S+TIRION)

[Pervinca Took]

Wouldn't it be 'ELLOS (Hellos) plus Tirion? (ELOS sounding like it).

Oh! The Spanish greeting.

Was Barad-Dur a third of someone else's building?

[Huinesoron]

Elostirion is correct, and no, 'third' pointed to the letter; straight clue is that the foundations were made with the One Ring.

T - If you want to play, shortly pay in what sounds like a dour, frozen world with a different note.
ORTHANC - Alternately, it's ok, thank the Sea for the toothed summit.
WEATHERTOP - It doesn't matter... or bottom, don't light any fires.
ELOSTIRION - If you hear a greeting (or more than one) before the Elvish city, look to the west.
BARAD-DUR - It's bad, but you need Marie's bane inside - duh, pretty much. Take a third of what one founded.

hS

[Galadriel55]

The first clue just doesn't come together, and judging by the silence not for me alone.

The only lead I have is sound-alikes for dour: taur, and tower itself. Taur isn't really used in the context of towers though, and from all the towers by that name I can't find any that would explain the rest of the clue.

[Pervinca Took]

There's Tar-Minastir, but I couldn't find any of the elements in that.

The problem with googling 'Tolkien towers' is ... no, not that you find Torquay hotels claiming Tolkien once stayed there, but that it brings up 'The Two Towers' instead.

[Urwen]

Maybe this would help: http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Category:Towers

[Huinesoron]

Perhaps it will help if I divide the clue up?

If you want to play | shortly pay | in | (what) [sounds like a dour | frozen world | with a different note.]

Each |section| should be considered separately, while the third section in the [square brackets] refers back to the combination of the other two. 'What' is just a linking word.

hS

[Galadriel55]

Tol-in-Gaurhoth? On the basis that it has a short "toll", "in", and "Hoth"? It was Hoth that did it.

Oh, and Gaur sounds like dour, with the note G switched in?

[Huinesoron]

Tol-in-Gaurhoth? On the basis that it has a short "toll", "in", and "Hoth"? It was Hoth that did it.

Oh, and Gaur sounds like dour, with the note G switched in?

Correct on every point; and you play there (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showthread.php?t=11911). :D

TOL-IN-GAURHOTH - If you want to play, shortly pay in what sounds like a dour, frozen world with a different note.
ORTHANC - Alternately, it's ok, thank the Sea for the toothed summit.
WEATHERTOP - It doesn't matter... or bottom, don't light any fires.
ELOSTIRION - If you hear a greeting (or more than one) before the Elvish city, look to the west.
BARAD-DUR - It's bad, but you need Marie's bane inside - duh, pretty much. Take a third of what one founded.

Theme: Towers

I believe you got the password, G55, so over to you.

hS

[Galadriel55]

Correct on every point; and you play there (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showthread.php?t=11911). :D

https://i.imgflip.com/2vl761.jpg


Next password coming up!

[Pervinca Took]

What is the frozen world and what is the 'want to play?' (Well done, by the way!)

[Galadriel55]

This one is a little weird in format, because I had an idea (and they don't lead you anywhere good). But the clues are not made to be difficult, on the contrary I think you'll get them fairly quickly. There's no direct theme, so instead the password gets a title:


Google Maps Is Your Friend

1. Long-lost cousin appears near Henderson & McClellan, Aurora, Ontario, Canada
2. Monster's dwelling. Note her.
3. Men of Light almost in New Zealand (and throughout the world, really)!
4. Hill in the oceans and in meals.
5. Lands seen through otoscope - except for their far end.
6. Barrow-dweller off the coast of Britain.
7. Lost lord finally found near Woodbine & Danforth, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
8. Cursed man in northern Italy.


Hope you enjoy!

[Galadriel55]

What is the frozen world and what is the 'want to play?' (Well done, by the way!)

Hoth is a frozen planet from Star Wars. And TIG is the Werewolf thread! (great straight clue, Hui! That was awesome!)

[Urwen]

4. Tuna

[Urwen]

8. Turin

[Urwen]

1. Morwen (NORM+WE(ller))

[Urwen]

7. Amroth (from Amroth Avenue)

[Huinesoron]

6/ The Isle of WIGHT.

hS

[Huinesoron]

3/ DUNEDIN is nearly Dunedain.

hS

[Huinesoron]

1/ A little south of the junction is UNDERHILL Crescent, after the family who decided Frodo must be a cousin.

hS

[Huinesoron]

2/ After a brief digression into Scylla and Charybdis, I remembered that there's a pretty famous British loch-dwelling monster, who can claim the note A and become NESSA.

hS

[Huinesoron]

5. An otoscope is that weird thing used for looking in your ear, so... EA, the World That Is?

hS

[Galadriel55]

1. Long-lost cousin appears near Henderson & McClellan, Aurora, Ontario, Canada
2. Monster's dwelling. Note her.
3. DUNEDAIN: Men of Light almost in New Zealand (and throughout the world, really)!
4. Lands seen through otoscope - except for their far end.
5. TUNA: Hill in the oceans and in meals.
6. WIGHT: Barrow-dweller off the coast of Britain.
7. AMROTH: Lost lord finally found near Woodbine & Danforth, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
8. TURIN: Cursed man in northern Italy.


Accidentally switched a couple clues around. Fixed now.

Morwen is incorrect. The rest are right.

Edit - crossed with Hui's few

[Urwen]

1. Holman, from Holman Crescent.

[Galadriel55]

1. UNDERHILL: Long-lost cousin appears near Henderson & McClellan, Aurora, Ontario, Canada
2. NESSA: Monster's dwelling. Note her.
3. DUNEDAIN: Men of Light almost in New Zealand (and throughout the world, really)!
4. Lands seen through otoscope - except for their far end.
5. TUNA: Hill in the oceans and in meals.
6. WIGHT: Barrow-dweller off the coast of Britain.
7. AMROTH: Lost lord finally found near Woodbine & Danforth, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
8. TURIN: Cursed man in northern Italy.

5. An otoscope is that weird thing used for looking in your ear, so... EA, the World That Is?

hS

It is that weird thing indeed. And you look into the "ear" (medically vague term) with it. But you can see something a teeeny bit more specific that would give you a different answer. You would know this term, it's not an obscure bit of anatomy, but maybe a google search will help trigger the right association.

[Galadriel55]

1. Holman, from Holman Crescent.

Hui got the answer, it's Underhill.

[Urwen]

Hearthat for the password?

[Galadriel55]

Hearthat for the password?

Indeed.



1. UNDERHILL: Long-lost cousin appears near Henderson & McClellan, Aurora, Ontario, Canada
2. NESSA: Monster's dwelling. Note her.
3. DUNEDAIN: Men of Light almost in New Zealand (and throughout the world, really)!
4. ???R???:Lands seen through otoscope - except for their far end.
5. TUNA: Hill in the oceans and in meals.
6. WIGHT: Barrow-dweller off the coast of Britain.
7. AMROTH: Lost lord finally found near Woodbine & Danforth, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
8. TURIN: Cursed man in northern Italy.
?

[Urwen]

4. Middle Earth (Remove the ending - TH - and you get middle ear)

[Galadriel55]

4. Middle Earth (Remove the ending - TH - and you get middle ear)

Correctomundo!


1. UNDERHILL: Long-lost cousin appears near Henderson & McClellan, Aurora, Ontario, Canada
2. NESSA: Monster's dwelling. Note her.
3. DUNEDAIN: Men of Light almost in New Zealand (and throughout the world, really)!
4. MIDDLE-EARTH:Lands seen through otoscope - except for their far end.
5. TUNA: Hill in the oceans and in meals.
6. WIGHT: Barrow-dweller off the coast of Britain.
7. AMROTH: Lost lord finally found near Woodbine & Danforth, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
8. TURIN: Cursed man in northern Italy.
?



Hope that was fun. I had a collection of sound-alikes and geographical Tolkien in my head, and I thought I'll put them together into a password. I get a little happy every time I see the street names when I'm in those areas.

Over to Urwen now!

[Urwen]

It'll take a while. In the meantime, try to solve my question in 'Bad Guy Trivia' thread.

[Urwen]

Well, since you seem more interested in this, here you go.


1. A deceiver and a headless element circulate for him.
2. A confused Newfoundlander, within, reveals her.
3. Behold a headless mythical creature. In turmoil, he is revealed.
4. A den and a pronoun are in disarray for him.
5. A girl and a German number return for her.
6. Rearrange a note in danger, and he is revealed.
7. A Hawaiian girl stumbles upon an element within an article. She is revealed.

[Galadriel55]

5. Nienna = Ein + Ann?

[Urwen]

1. A deceiver and a headless element circulate for him.
2. A confused Newfoundlander, within, reveals her.
3. Behold a headless mythical creature. In turmoil, he is revealed.
4. A den and a pronoun are in disarray for him.
NIENNA: A girl and a German number return for her.
6. Rearrange a note in danger, and he is revealed.
7. A Hawaiian girl stumbles upon an element within an article. She is revealed.

[Urwen]

Is this one too difficult?

[Huinesoron]

Is this one too difficult?

It is the weekend and many of us are busy. :)

hS

[Urwen]

It is the weekend and many of us are busy. :)

hS


Don't most jobs happen during weekdays, meaning that people should be less busy on weekends? Or is it different where you live?

[Huinesoron]

Don't most jobs happen during weekdays, meaning that people should be less busy on weekends? Or is it different where you live?

Speaking for myself, I have a wife, two small children, and shopping to do. :) At work, I can slack off... ;)

(Also: at work I'm stuck in front of a computer anyway. At home, I have access to books and so forth.)

hS

[Galadriel55]

Don't most jobs happen during weekdays, meaning that people should be less busy on weekends? Or is it different where you live?

Like Hui - lots of Downs happens for me in breaks between lectures during the week. I think it's true for many Downers that they Downs during work/school hours, depending on the nature of their work.

But that aside, I haven't had any bright ideas so far.

...Actually...


4. Ilmare? lair + me?

[Urwen]

Nope.

[Pervinca Took]

Is 6 ANGROD, changing the E of DANGER into an O?

[Urwen]

No.

[Pervinca Took]

1. A deceiver and a headless element circulate for him.
2. A confused Newfoundlander, within, reveals her.
3. Behold a headless mythical creature. In turmoil, he is revealed.
4. A den and a pronoun are in disarray for him.
NIENNA: A girl and a German number return for her.
6. Rearrange a note in danger, and he is revealed.
7. A Hawaiian girl stumbles upon an element within an article. She is revealed.

Well, kaikamahine is the Hawaiian word for girl, but that's too many k's for most Tolkien names. There's a song called Hawaiian Girl, too. Or perhaps we're looking for a popular girls' name in Hawaii. Or a famous Hawaiian girl.

So ....

The above-mentioned song actually *does* appear to mention thd girl's name:

Aloha Wau Ia Oe (if that's her name).

And I think Aloha was in a list of popular Hawaiian girls' names that I found. But can it firm a Tolkienian name when mixed with a pronoun? Let's see ....

Whoops! This one adds an element within an article. Which I was thinking, yesterday, must be a--n, since splitting the at the end of a word seemed less likely for a feminine name.

Perhaps the article surrounds all the other letters?

[Urwen]

Nope. Think Disney.

[Pervinca Took]

Moana?

[Urwen]

Moana?


Not Hawaiian.

[Pervinca Took]

So we can see it:

1. A deceiver and a headless element circulate for him.
2. A confused Newfoundlander, within, reveals her.
3. Behold a headless mythical creature. In turmoil, he is revealed.
4. A den and a pronoun are in disarray for him.
NIENNA: A girl and a German number return for her.
6. Rearrange a note in danger, and he is revealed.
7. A Hawaiian girl stumbles upon an element within an article. She is revealed.

LILO, from Lilo and Stitch?

LOTHIRIEL?

LILO stumbles upon/around/into THE with IR inside it.

[Urwen]

1. A deceiver and a headless element circulate for him.
2. A confused Newfoundlander, within, reveals her.
3. Behold a headless mythical creature. In turmoil, he is revealed.
4. A den and a pronoun are in disarray for him.
NIENNA: A girl and a German number return for her.
6. Rearrange a note in danger, and he is revealed.
LOTHIRIEL: A Hawaiian girl stumbles upon an element within an article. She is revealed.

[Pervinca Took]

6. ELPHIR - the German note H in PERIL.

Brothers and sisters for the theme.

[Urwen]

1. A deceiver and a headless element circulate for him.
2. A confused Newfoundlander, within, reveals her.
3. Behold a headless mythical creature. In turmoil, he is revealed.
4. A den and a pronoun are in disarray for him.
NIENNA: A girl and a German number return for her.
ELPHIR: Rearrange a note in danger, and he is revealed.
LOTHIRIEL: A Hawaiian girl stumbles upon an element within an article. She is revealed.


THEME: BROTHER AND SISTER PAIRS

[Pervinca Took]

3. LORIEN, brother of Nienna?

LO + (S)IREN.

[Pervinca Took]

EILINEL for the password? (Must check if she had a brother).

[Urwen]

1. A deceiver and a headless element circulate for him.
2. A confused Newfoundlander, within, reveals her.
LORIEN: Behold a headless mythical creature. In turmoil, he is revealed.
4. A den and a pronoun are in disarray for him.
NIENNA: A girl and a German number return for her.
ELPHIR: Rearrange a note in danger, and he is revealed.
LOTHIRIEL: A Hawaiian girl stumbles upon an element within an article. She is revealed.


THEME: BROTHER AND SISTER PAIRS


Not Eilinel.

[Pervinca Took]

AILINEL.

So Aldarion must be there somewhere. EDIT: Must be the first one, if Ailinel is right.

It's ok. I'll do the work ...

Trouble is, none of Tolkien's deceivers seem to fit. Neither do synonyms like 'liar' or 'cheat' or 'fraud.'

[Urwen]

AILINEL.

So Aldarion must be there somewhere. EDIT: Must be the first one, if Ailinel is right.

It's ok. I'll do the work ...

Trouble is, none of Tolkien's deceivers seem to fit. Neither do synonyms like 'liar' or 'cheat' or 'fraud.'


Actually, one of those three synonyms does fit.

[Urwen]

A: A deceiver and a headless element circulate for him.
I: A confused Newfoundlander, within, reveals her.
LORIEN: Behold a headless mythical creature. In turmoil, he is revealed.
I: A den and a pronoun are in disarray for him.
NIENNA: A girl and a German number return for her.
ELPHIR: Rearrange a note in danger, and he is revealed.
LOTHIRIEL: A Hawaiian girl stumbles upon an element within an article. She is revealed.

THEME: BROTHER AND SISTER PAIRS

[Pervinca Took]

Oh yes!

So ... ALDARION - LIAR = DAON.

Something -adon? Although that sounds more like a painkiller.

...

RADON!

So yes: ALDARION.

I think the last two can only be IMRAHIL and IVRINIEL. But I need to work out how.

[Urwen]

ALDARION: A deceiver and a headless element circulate for him.
I: A confused Newfoundlander, within, reveals her.
LORIEN: Behold a headless mythical creature. In turmoil, he is revealed.
I: A den and a pronoun are in disarray for him.
NIENNA: A girl and a German number return for her.
ELPHIR: Rearrange a note in danger, and he is revealed.
LOTHIRIEL: A Hawaiian girl stumbles upon an element within an article. She is revealed.

THEME: BROTHER AND SISTER PAIRS

[Galadriel55]

I think the last two can only be IMRAHIL and IVRINIEL. But I need to work out how.

Imrahil is LAIR + HIM.

[Urwen]

Oh yes!

So ... ALDARION - LIAR = DAON.

Something -adon? Although that sounds more like a painkiller.

...

RADON!

So yes: ALDARION.

I think the last two can only be IMRAHIL and IVRINIEL. But I need to work out how.

You can do it.

[Pervinca Took]

Imrahil is LAIR + HIM.

*Feeling dim.* I am doing a lot of looking but not seeing on this puzzle.

I am stumped on Ivriniel, though. I have found famous Newfoundlanders, but none of them have names that provide the elements needed.

[Pervinca Took]

If within indicates IN, we're left with VIRILE.

Perhaps 'a' indicates 1/I. That would leave VRILE to account for.

[Urwen]

Well, you got the name, so I'll tell you.

There is a synonym for Newfoundlander: LIVIER. If you add IN, you get the name.

[Urwen]

ALDARION: A deceiver and a headless element circulate for him.
IVRINIEL: A confused Newfoundlander, within, reveals her.
LORIEN: Behold a headless mythical creature. In turmoil, he is revealed.
IMRAHIL: A den and a pronoun are in disarray for him.
NIENNA: A girl and a German number return for her.
ELPHIR: Rearrange a note in danger, and he is revealed.
LOTHIRIEL: A Hawaiian girl stumbles upon an element within an article. She is revealed.

THEME: BROTHER AND SISTER PAIRS


It's yours.

[Pervinca Took]

That was really good, Urwen. It's hard to fit pairs in *and* use all first letters.

I will post one when I get home. I have a couple ready.

[Galadriel55]

*Feeling dim.* I am doing a lot of looking but not seeing on this puzzle.

Well, I couldn't find the answer at all, and I worked backward from your guess. So, team effort. :)

[Pervinca Took]

Indeed - and it's most fun when several of us are solving a puzzle together.

Once more, then:

1. For him, a liquid and a fricative blend with sweet Italian!
2. The Spanish pull the oars in this place, we hear. Now see him.
3. He initially turns a machine for her.
4. Ugh, he dropped one! Slightly sibilant, and mildly unsettling!
5. He enticed him, we hear (in slightly improper English).
6. Barnet youth loses one, but see him reform.
7. Ancient letter – elemental! Mix to find him.

[Urwen]

5. Elured (E+LURED)

[Galadriel55]

2. Elrohir - El, row, and here

[Urwen]

6. Haldar (HAIR-I +LAD)

[Galadriel55]

7. Thorin? Thorn + Iodine...

[Pervinca Took]

1. For him, a liquid and a fricative blend with sweet Italian!
ELROHIR: The Spanish pull the oars in this place, we hear. Now see him.
3. He initially turns a machine for her.
4. Ugh, he dropped one! Slightly sibilant, and mildly unsettling!
ELURED: He enticed him, we hear (in slightly improper English).
HALDAR: Barnet youth loses one, but see him reform.
7. Ancient letter – elemental! Mix to find him.

All correct except for Thorin (which is an excellent answer, just not the one I'm looking for).

[Urwen]

Liquid is L or R. Dolce is italian for sweet. But there are many fricatives....

[Urwen]

3. Lotho (Tool+H, the initial of HE)

[Pervinca Took]

Liquid is L or R. Dolce is italian for sweet. But there are many fricatives....

True. But try a few.

Have you any idea how many mythological creatures I went through before the theme told me it was *siren* I needed? ;)

EDIT: Also, no to Lotho.

[Urwen]

Folcred (DOLCE+F+R)

[Urwen]

4. Fengel (Eng+Leaf-A)

[Pervinca Took]

FOLCRED: For him, a liquid and a fricative blend with sweet Italian!
ELROHIR: The Spanish pull the oars in this place, we hear. Now see him.
3. He initially turns a machine for her.
4. Ugh, he dropped one! Slightly sibilant, and mildly unsettling!
ELURED: He enticed him, we hear (in slightly improper English).
HALDAR: Barnet youth loses one, but see him reform.
7. Ancient letter – elemental! Mix to find him.

No to Fengel.

[Urwen]

7. Elladan (Edan+La)

[Urwen]

That was supposed to be for 3.


So.....


3. Fengel (Eng+Leaf-A)

[Urwen]

Wait, the password is Elladan.

[Urwen]

Which means, he is out as a clue.

[Pervinca Took]

7. Elladan (Edan+La)

No. I don't know what Edan is, and I always account for every letter of the answer.

None of the answers is Fengel.

[Urwen]

Edan is an ancient letter (ᚫᚪ or eadan)


Taken from here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Saxon_runes

[Pervinca Took]

FOLCRED: For him, a liquid and a fricative blend with sweet Italian!
ELROHIR: The Spanish pull the oars in this place, we hear. Now see him.
???L???: He initially turns a machine for her.
???A???: Ugh, he dropped one! Slightly sibilant, and mildly unsettling!
ELURED: He enticed him, we hear (in slightly improper English).
HALDAR: Barnet youth loses one, but see him reform.
???N???: Ancient letter – elemental! Mix to find him.

[Urwen]

7. Elurin (RUNE+LI)

[Pervinca Took]

FOLCRED: For him, a liquid and a fricative blend with sweet Italian!
ELROHIR: The Spanish pull the oars in this place, we hear. Now see him.
HALETH: He initially turns a machine for her.
???A???: Ugh, he dropped one! Slightly sibilant, and mildly unsettling!
ELURED: He enticed him, we hear (in slightly improper English).
HALDAR: Barnet youth loses one, but see him reform.
ELURIN: Ancient letter – elemental! Mix to find him.

It's HALETH, but it's H + LATHE (turned).

To drop one over here is to ... er ... release gas from ....

[Urwen]

I think the remaining answers are Fastred and Haldad, but I can't figure out how they fit.

[Pervinca Took]

One of those is right.

'Dropped one' may only exist in British slang ....

[Urwen]

Wait, is 3 Haleth (Hal + He + T)

[Urwen]

I could only find 'drop a clanger', but it doesn't fit with Fastred.....

[Pervinca Took]

Sorry, I accidentally edited instead of quoting, so here it us again:

FOLCRED: For him, a liquid and a fricative blend with sweet Italian!
ELROHIR: The Spanish pull the oars in this place, we hear. Now see him.
HALETH: He initially turns a machine for her.
???A???: Ugh, he dropped one! Slightly sibilant, and mildly unsettling!
ELURED: He enticed him, we hear (in slightly improper English).
HALDAR: Barnet youth loses one, but see him reform.
ELURIN: Ancient letter – elemental! Mix to find him.

It's HALETH, but it's H + LATHE (turned = anagram indicator, but a lathe is also a turning machine).

To drop one over here is to ... er ... release gas from ....

[Pervinca Took]

Huey will know it. He has young children. :D

[Urwen]

From rectum?

[Pervinca Took]

Generally, yes. (In a normal, healthy person). :)

[Urwen]

Oh, I see. Fastred (Fart+Se+D)

[Pervinca Took]

Past tense.

Farted + s (slightly sibilant), and shaken up, but only a little, (mildly unsettling).

Hwaet! We have heard of Fastred the Flatulent
And Folcred the Fragrant, twins tenacious
In battle bravery.

(Often sung in Meduseld).

[Pervinca Took]

FOLCRED: For him, a liquid and a fricative blend with sweet Italian!
ELROHIR: The Spanish pull the oars in this place, we hear. Now see him.
HALETH: He initially turns a machine for her.
FASTRED: Ugh, he dropped one! Slightly sibilant, and mildly unsettling!
ELURED: He enticed him, we hear (in slightly improper English).
HALDAR: Barnet youth loses one, but see him reform.
ELURIN: Ancient letter – elemental! Mix to find him.

THEME: TWINS (FOUR PAIRS OF THEM!)

Over to Urwen!

[Urwen]

Haha.

[Urwen]

I am not sure what to do next.

[Pervinca Took]

We can't advise, or we'd know the answers. ;)

[Galadriel55]

I am not sure what to do next.

Just do what you feel like. :)

[Urwen]

Yes, but too few of options meet this particular criteria I've chosen. X is one of them.

[Galadriel55]

Yes, but too few of options meet this particular criteria I've chosen. X is one of them.

What if you modify your criteria, or go for a less strict theme/pattern?

[Pervinca Took]

For example, I really wanted to fit all of Feanor's sons and nothing else into a password, but it wasn't possible, so I made it all the sons plus Feanor and Nerdanel. I'm sure you can come up with another great password if you relax the criteria, as Galadriel suggested.

[Urwen]

I finally made it! This one also has a theme.

1. Moody, with a direction? In confusion, he is revealed
2. He played one in endless queue (mixed up), and he lost it.
3. Rearrange the mythical monster for him
4. In the front, with direction? Mix it up for the fiery one
5. Initially, he is taking secretion, without end
6. Elemental destruction? Turn it around for him

Enjoy!

[Urwen]

Just in case the new puzzle wasn't seen.

[Pervinca Took]

Seen, and trying, honest! :)

[Urwen]

1. Moody, with a direction? In confusion, he is revealed
2. He played one in endless queue (mixed up), and he lost it.
3. Rearrange the mythical monster for him
4. In the front, with direction? Mix it up for the fiery one
5. Initially, he is taking secretion, without end
6. Elemental destruction? Turn it around for him

[Nerwen]

Is #4 FËANOR? ("Fore" + N for direction, but I can't account for the "a").

[Nerwen]

And is #3 ANGROD? (Anagram of "dragon").

[Urwen]

Is #4 FËANOR? ("Fore" + N for direction, but I can't account for the "a").

It's AFORE+N, actually.

[Urwen]

And is #3 ANGROD? (Anagram of "dragon").

Nope, but you have the right idea.

[Urwen]

1. Moody, with a direction? In confusion, he is revealed
2. He played one in endless queue (mixed up), and he lost it.
3. Rearrange the mythical monster for him
FEANOR: In the front, with direction? Mix it up for the fiery one
5. Initially, he is taking secretion, without end
6. Elemental destruction? Spin it for him

[Urwen]

Hint for 2: [It] is a popular thing on the interwebz and even beyond, and if you think/talk about [it], you lose [it].

The term could also be used for cunning maneuvers, and this is the way [he] played (and lost) [it].

[Nerwen]

MAEGLIN? ("game" + "nil").

[Pervinca Took]

Oh yes ... LIN(E) for endless queue?

[Urwen]

1. Moody, with a direction? In confusion, he is revealed
MAEGLIN: He played one in endless queue (mixed up), and he lost it.
3. Rearrange the mythical monster for him
FEANOR: In the front, with direction? Mix it up for the fiery one
5. Initially, he is taking secretion, without end
6. Elemental destruction? Spin it for him

Try figuring out the rest. It's easier than you think....

[Urwen]

Hint for 3: Nerwen guessed the right creature, it's just that there are two characters in Tolkien Legendarium whose names are an anagram of 'dragon', and they're both from the first age. If it's not Angrod, it's......

[Pervinca Took]

ANDROG the outlaw.

[Urwen]

1. Moody, with a direction? In confusion, he is revealed
MAEGLIN: He played one in endless queue (mixed up), and he lost it.
ANDROG: Rearrange the mythical monster for him
FEANOR: In the front, with direction? Mix it up for the fiery one
5. Initially, he is taking secretion, without end
6. Elemental destruction? Spin it for him

[Urwen]

Some hints

For 1, find a synonym for 'moody'.
For 5, what do you secrete when you pee?
For 4, find a synonym for 'destruction'.

[Pervinca Took]

Maybe AMARIE for the password?

[Pervinca Took]

5. HURIN.

H (initial of HE) plus URIN(E).

[Urwen]

Nope, 5 isn't Hurin ;)

[Urwen]

The password has a connection with all the answers, and I don't recall Amarie/Androg or Amarie/Maeglin having any connection.

[Nerwen]

Well, I don't recall Maeglin, Fëanor and Androg having much in common either. I wonder what it can be..?

[Urwen]

Well, I don't recall Maeglin, Fëanor and Androg having much in common either. I wonder what it can be..?

Something that I discovered while re-reading the book.

[Nerwen]

All three got put under deadly curses- is it that?

[Urwen]

Yea, so they were, yet there are more who were.

[Urwen]

1. Moody, with a direction? In confusion, he is revealed
MAEGLIN: He played one in endless queue (mixed up), and he lost it.
ANDROG: Rearrange the mythical monster for him
FEANOR: In the front, with direction? Mix it up for the fiery one
5. Initially, he is taking secretion, without end
6. Elemental destruction? Spin it for him.

THEME: CURSED INDIVIDUALS

The solution to #1 is a bit of a stretch, but you'll understand my reasoning once this is solved.

[Pervinca Took]

5. Turin was cursed.

I suppose it could be the initial of 'taking' that you're after.

[Urwen]

1. Moody, with a direction? In confusion, he is revealed
MAEGLIN: He played one in endless queue (mixed up), and he lost it.
ANDROG: Rearrange the mythical monster for him
FEANOR: In the front, with direction? Mix it up for the fiery one
TURIN: Initially, he is taking secretion, without end
6. Elemental destruction? Spin it for him.

THEME: CURSED INDIVIDUALS

And that's where the password comes in. Think his aliases, and you'll find it.

[Pervinca Took]

UMARTH, ill fate?

[Pervinca Took]

And HURIN for 6 - H(ydrogen) + RUIN.

[Urwen]

U: Moody, with a direction? In confusion, he is revealed
MAEGLIN: He played one in endless queue (mixed up), and he lost it.
ANDROG: Rearrange the mythical monster for him
FEANOR: In the front, with direction? Mix it up for the fiery one
TURIN :Initially, he is taking secretion, without end
HURIN: Elemental destruction? Spin it for him.

THEME: CURSED INDIVIDUALS

[Urwen]

The last one was included because of his epithet (and because I needed someone with an initial U. :p)

[Pervinca Took]

Oh ... I was thinking GOLLUM ...GLUM + L, but leaving an O unaccounted for.

[Urwen]

Oh ... I was thinking GOLLUM ...GLUM + L, but leaving an O unaccounted for.


Nope, he had no epithets which implied he was cursed.

[Pervinca Took]

ULDOR the Accursed.

DOUR for moody, plus L.

[Urwen]

Did you like it? I tried to make it easier this time....

ULDOR: Moody, with a direction? In confusion, he is revealed
MAEGLIN: He played one in endless queue (mixed up), and he lost it.
ANDROG: Rearrange the mythical monster for him
FEANOR: In the front, with direction? Mix it up for the fiery one
TURIN :Initially, he is taking secretion, without end
HURIN: Elemental destruction? Spin it for him.

THEME: CURSED INDIVIDUALS

Over to you.

[Pervinca Took]

I did like it, very much. It had an original theme, and they are getting increasingly difficult to find.

You're a dab hand at passwords now!

[Urwen]

I mostly use anagram maker these days, which is why some clues are more difficult than others. Also, technically, Uldor doesn't fit with the theme.

[Urwen]

Anyway, I am looking forward to seeing what you'll come up with next.

[Pervinca Took]

Uldor is fine. Who were the others cursed by, by the way? Turin I guess was cursed by Glaurung.

Hope you enjoy this one:

1. She's a wheel known (and used) by typists in the recent past.
2. Metal Indian dish rotates to reveal her.
3. Add note to the man (a singer, indeed!) - all for her.
4. An adder may also be a setter! But shake it to see. *
5. She tangles a cloth.
6. Wizard with sparkle, but confusingly, it's not a him, but a her!
7. Article about an actor's part, or is it the other way round? Work it out. For her.

* Don't try this at home. Or outside. Or anywhere else!

[Urwen]

Answer to your question: Mim cursed Androg, Hurin and Turin were cursed by Morgoth, along with Morwen and Nienor (and possibly everyone who views any of them in positive light, as the deaths of Gwindor, Finduilas, Beleg, Orodreth, and Brandir prove). Maeglin was cursed by his father. And Feanor, along with his entire house, was cursed by Mandos.

[Pervinca Took]

Thank you! :)

[Urwen]

1. Daisy (from DAISYWHEEL)
7. Elanor (AN around a ROLE)


Theme: Female hobbits

[Pervinca Took]

DAISY: She's a wheel known (and used) by typists in the recent past.
2. Metal Indian dish rotates to reveal her.
3. Add note to the man (a singer, indeed!) - all for her.
4. An adder may also be a setter! But shake it to see. *
5. She tangles a cloth.
6. Wizard with sparkle, but confusingly, it's not a him, but a her!
ELANOR: Article about an actor's part, or is it the other way round? Work it out. For her.

* Don't try this at home. Or outside. Or anywhere else!

Yes. Or rather, ROLE around AN. ;)

No to the theme you suggested, though.

[Urwen]

Password: Yavanna?

[Urwen]

2. Lalaith (THALI + AL)

[Pervinca Took]

DAISY: She's a wheel known (and used) by typists in the recent past.
LALAITH: Metal Indian dish rotates to reveal her.
???V???: Add note to the man (a singer, indeed!) - all for her.
???A???: An adder may also be a setter! But shake it to see. *
???N???: She tangles a cloth.
???N???:Wizard with sparkle, but confusingly, it's not a him, but a her!
ELANOR: Article about an actor's part, or is it the other way round? Work it out. For her.

* Don't try this at home. Or outside. Or anywhere else!

[Urwen]

Synonyms for cloth: canvas, cotton, nylon.....

And adder is a type of snake.....

[Pervinca Took]

Keep going.

[Urwen]

4. Pervinca (Viper+Can)

[Pervinca Took]

DAISY: She's a wheel known (and used) by typists in the recent past.
LALAITH: Metal Indian dish rotates to reveal her.
???V???: Add note to the man (a singer, indeed!) - all for her.
PERVINCA: An adder may also be a setter! But shake it to see. *
???N???: She tangles a cloth.
???N???:Wizard with sparkle, but confusingly, it's not a him, but a her!
ELANOR: Article about an actor's part, or is it the other way round? Work it out. For her.

* Don't try this at home. Or outside. Or anywhere else!

[Urwen]

Singer could be a bard, or maybe not......

[Pervinca Took]

That's pretty broad. Define 'bard.'

[Urwen]

Singer in medieval times.

[Pervinca Took]

It's a singer, but not a mediaeval one.

[Urwen]

Modern one, then?

[Urwen]

Is it a famous singer? Because there are many of those, and there are few synonyms for singer which contain the letter needed.

[Urwen]

5. Niniel (Linen+I)

[Pervinca Took]

It is. I mean, in the sense of not Elizabethan or something. :D (Although in literature, that's Early Modern). ;) But he's been around a long time. I saw him perform in the late 80's, and he wasn't young then.

[Pervinca Took]

DAISY: She's a wheel known (and used) by typists in the recent past.
LALAITH: Metal Indian dish rotates to reveal her.
???V???: Add note to the man (a singer, indeed!) - all for her.
PERVINCA: An adder may also be a setter! But shake it to see. *
NINIEL: She tangles a cloth.
???N???:Wizard with sparkle, but confusingly, it's not a him, but a her!
ELANOR: Article about an actor's part, or is it the other way round? Work it out. For her.

* Don't try this at home. Or outside. Or anywhere else!

[Urwen]

3. Vana (Van+A)

The last one must be Pimpernel, but I have no luck fitting that in.

[Urwen]

Theme: Sisters

[Pervinca Took]

It is. I mean, in the sense of not Elizabethan or something. :D (Although in literature, that's Early Modern). ;) But he's been around a long time. I saw him perform in the late 80's, and he wasn't young then.

The wording of the clue refers to his nickname.

[Urwen]

So it's not Vana?

[Pervinca Took]

DAISY: She's a wheel known (and used) by typists in the recent past.
LALAITH: Metal Indian dish rotates to reveal her.
VANA: Add note to the man (a singer, indeed!) - all for her.
PERVINCA: An adder may also be a setter! But shake it to see. *
NINIEL: She tangles a cloth.
???N???:Wizard with sparkle, but confusingly, it's not a him, but a her!
ELANOR: Article about an actor's part, or is it the other way round? Work it out. For her.

* Don't try this at home. Or outside. Or anywhere else!

THEME: SISTERS

VAN = Van the Man (Van Morrison).

Have a go at constructing Pimpernel. Try a non-Tolkien wizard.

[Urwen]

Merlin + Pep

[Pervinca Took]

DAISY: She's a wheel known (and used) by typists in the recent past.
LALAITH: Metal Indian dish rotates to reveal her.
VANA: Add note to the man (a singer, indeed!) - all for her.
PERVINCA: An adder may also be a setter! But shake it to see. *
NINIEL: She tangles a cloth.
PIMPERNEL: Wizard with sparkle, but confusingly, it's not a him, but a her!
ELANOR: Article about an actor's part, or is it the other way round? Work it out. For her.

* Don't try this at home. Or outside. Or anywhere else!

THEME: SISTERS

Correct!

And over to the *next* setter, Urwen.

P.S. I accidentally made Lalaith and Urwen sisters the other night, and later realised and changed Urwen to Niniel. (In my defence, I was very tired).

[Urwen]

And over to the *next* setter, Urwen.



Whose other name was one of the clues.


And this time, I did solve the whole thing all by myself.


Will come up with a new one shortly.

[Pervinca Took]

Whose other name was one of the clues.


It was. Have you ever eaten Thali?

[Urwen]

1. Fish appendages surround an endless sport for him.
2. A lake switches vowels. Add a number and spin it for him.
3. Shuffle a Roman siege engine for him
4. A direction appears in a new form. Spin it for her.
5. An entrance in a spin, initially really encourages through here, for him.
6. He is noble.

[Urwen]

It was. Have you ever eaten Thali?

Nope. I don't eat metal. :smokin:

[Pervinca Took]

I knew it as a meal before I realised it was also the name of the utensil it's served in.

[Pervinca Took]

5. ORODRETH.

DOOR + R + E + T+ H (initials).

[Pervinca Took]

1. Fin + gol(f) + fin.

[Pervinca Took]

If it's 1st letters, FINROD for the password?

[Urwen]

FINGOLFIN: Fish appendages surround an endless sport for him.
2. A lake switches vowels. Add a number and spin it for him.
3. Shuffle a Roman siege engine for him
4. A direction appears in a new form. Spin it for her.
ORODRETH: An entrance in a spin, initially really encourages through here, for him.
6. He is noble.

Not all letters are first ones, and Finrod isn't the password.

[Pervinca Took]

Maybe FINGON?

[Urwen]

Maybe FINGON?


Nope.

[Pervinca Took]

Oh ... Feanor?

[Urwen]

FINGOLFIN: Fish appendages surround an endless sport for him.
E: A lake switches vowels. Add a number and spin it for him.
A: Shuffle a Roman siege engine for him
N: A direction appears in a new form. Spin it for her.
ORODRETH: An entrance in a spin, initially really encourages through here, for him.
R: He is noble.

[Pervinca Took]

Last one: ARANEL (noble elf) or one of his other names, such as DIOR?

[Galadriel55]

Last one: ARANEL (noble elf) or one of his other names, such as DIOR?

Or Argon, everyone's favourite noble gas.

[Urwen]

FINGOLFIN: Fish appendages surround an endless sport for him.
E: A lake switches vowels. Add a number and spin it for him.
A: Shuffle a Roman siege engine for him
N: A direction appears in a new form. Spin it for her.
ORODRETH: An entrance in a spin, initially really encourages through here, for him.
ARGON: He is noble.

[Nerwen]

#3 must be AEGNOR. (Anagram of "onager").

[Pervinca Took]

Are they all descendants of Finwe? (Don't hit me … I'm not as First-Age-Fluent as the rest of you).

N: A direction appears in a new form. Spin it for her.

'A new form' seems to suggest an anagrammised version of 'new.' Trouble is, putting an R into 'new' doesn't reform the 'new.'

I am trying to get the clue to justify doubling new - with the R for direction, we'd have NERWEN - but we'd also have an extra W.

[Urwen]

Renew+N = Nerwen

FINGOLFIN: Fish appendages surround an endless sport for him.
E: A lake switches vowels. Add a number and spin it for him.
AEGNOR: Shuffle a Roman siege engine for him
NERWEN: A direction appears in a new form. Spin it for her.
ORODRETH: An entrance in a spin, initially really encourages through here, for him.
ARGON: He is noble.

THEME: FINWEANS

Be glad I didn't include Maeglin, again. :p

[Pervinca Took]

Well, if we take (Tarn) AELUIN, change the U to another E, add the Roman numeral D and mix it all up, we can get EARENDIL.

Just thinking - from Finwe's union with Miriel, we get Silmarils, Rings, possibly Palantiri, an alphabet ….

But from Finwe's union with Indis, we get people who are still around.

[Urwen]

No, the lake is from the real life. It's one of the Great Lakes, to be precise.

[Pervinca Took]

Ah, ok. I did try it with Lake Erie first, thinking a shorter name would be more likely, but didn't get there.

[Pervinca Took]

IRIME.

ERIE + M, and turn one of the E's into an I.

[Urwen]

Nope.

Big hint incoming.

It's.....a lesser known name of an Elven-King of whom the harpists sadly sing.

[Pervinca Took]

ERENION. Erie - e + o + nine?

I have a feeling my spelling is wrong.

[Urwen]

Ereinion is how you spell it.

[Urwen]

FINGOLFIN: Fish appendages surround an endless sport for him.
EREINION: A lake switches vowels. Add a number and spin it for him.
AEGNOR: Shuffle a Roman siege engine for him
NERWEN: A direction appears in a new form. Spin it for her.
ORODRETH: An entrance in a spin, initially really encourages through here, for him.
ARGON: He is noble.

THEME: FINWEANS

Over to you.

[Pervinca Took]

1. Seventies frozen foods find her, after a second vowel shift.
2. Prudish and inflamed? She isn’t half a muddle!
3. Fateful lady: a virgin, she, however aberrant.
4. Mournful song changes note and Italian grandmother loses head for her.
5. Regret purchase? From what we hear, yes – or does she?
6. She’s no Cyclops, we hear, and a French sea swishes around her.
7. She falls into deception and chaos.
8. Swallowing back metal, sailors mingle for her.
9. Something the Cheshire Cat might say, quite truthfully. There’s spin, though, before she’s revealed.

[Urwen]

Cyclops=One eye=One I.

[Urwen]

I've never been good with 'sounds like' clues.

[Urwen]

And I can't find any names of frozen foods from 1970s either. The best I could find were generic things (frozen pizza, frozen desserts, frozen oven chips, frozen ready meals....)

[Galadriel55]

6. She’s no Cyclops, we hear, and a French sea swishes around her.

"No cyclops" might mean she has 2 I's, and a MER, making... Miriel? But no L.


3. Virgin suggests Mary to me, but that doesn't give anything. Marie might lead to AMARIE though.

[Galadriel55]

4. BELLADONNA, from Ballad (-a + e) and (n)onna.

[Pervinca Took]

"No cyclops" might mean she has 2 I's, and a MER, making... Miriel? But no L.


3. Virgin suggests Mary to me, but that doesn't give anything. Marie might lead to AMARIE though.

6. You're very nearly there, and you don't need an L.

3. Try a synonym rather than an example.

[Urwen]

6. Irime, G55 explained why

[Pervinca Took]

1. Frozen food brand unveils her, after a second vowel shift.
2. Prudish and inflamed? She isn’t half a muddle!
3. Fateful lady: a virgin, she, however aberrant.
BELLADONNA: Mournful song changes note and Italian grandmother loses head for her.
5. Regret purchase? From what we hear, yes – or does she?
IRIME: She’s no Cyclops, we hear, and a French sea swishes around her.
7. She falls into deception and chaos.
8. Swallowing back metal, sailors mingle for her.
9. Something the Cheshire Cat might say, quite truthfully. There’s spin, though, before she’s revealed.

BELLADONNA is correct.

EDIT: And so is IRIME.

2ND EDIT: I have edited clue 1. This frozen food brand began before the 70's, and is still in existence. I just associated it with a lot of TV ads in the 70's.

[Galadriel55]

3. Try a synonym rather than an example.

Maid and Maiden are possibilities, but there's also "she" that I can't mix in to form anything. Urwen?

[Urwen]

3. Donnamira? Donna is italian for 'lady' and 'mira' could mean 'fateful'.

[Urwen]

Is the theme 'sisters' this time as well?

[Urwen]

1. Findis (FINDUS-U+I)?

[Pervinca Took]

3. Donnamira? Donna is italian for 'lady' and 'mira' could mean 'fateful'.

It IS Donnamira. But if 'mira' means 'fateful,' I've never heard of it, and 'donna' is not an element.

It's NORN for 'fateful lady' (mythical females connected to fate) plus A MAID (I think Galadriel guessed 'maid.') 'Aberrant' is the anagram indicator.

Yes, it's sisters again. I actually wrote this one before the other.

[Pervinca Took]

FINDIS: Frozen food brand unveils her, after a second vowel shift.
2. Prudish and inflamed? She isn’t half a muddle!
DONNAMIRA: Fateful lady: a virgin, she, however aberrant.
BELLADONNA: Mournful song changes note and Italian grandmother loses head for her.
5. Regret purchase? From what we hear, yes – or does she?
IRIME: She’s no Cyclops, we hear, and a French sea swishes around her.
7. She falls into deception and chaos.
8. Swallowing back metal, sailors mingle for her.
9. Something the Cheshire Cat might say, quite truthfully. There’s spin, though, before she’s revealed.

THEME: SISTERS

Findus - success on a plate for you! - a familiar TV ad jingle from my childhood.

[Urwen]

And you are irritated with me for using obscure things in my passwords, when you use them too?