Password

[Pervinca Took]

No. Something easier.

Well, I wouldn't connect either of them with HATE ....

[Huinesoron]

Well, I wouldn't connect either of them with HATE ....

Perhaps they both wore snazzy HATS?

Or they share their names with minor Star Wars characters, just like the obscure Elvish word HOTH?

(Wait, that's not actually obscure at all...)

hS

[Urwen]

Huinesoron is close with HOTH, if you do some vowel-swappin'.

[Pervinca Took]

HATH is Primitive Elvish for treat kindly/help to cure.

[Urwen]

HATH is Primitive Elvish for treat kindly/help to cure.


Not that.

[Pervinca Took]

HITH (mist) seems even less likely.

[Pervinca Took]

HETH is sibling. Is it sibling pairs?

[Urwen]

HETH is sibling. Is it sibling pairs?


Right answer.

[Pervinca Took]

HALETH: Her physical condition is haywire.
2. Temporary provision of money reveals her (chaotically).
TOLMAN: A nasal in the middle of fractured bird claw, for him.
4. Note, he is unyielding, in turmoil.

HALDAR.

HARD + LA

For number 4.

[Urwen]

HALETH: Her physical condition is haywire.
E: Temporary provision of money reveals her (chaotically).
TOLMAN: A nasal in the middle of fractured bird claw, for him.
HALDAR: Note, he is unyielding, in turmoil.

[Pervinca Took]

ELANOR has loan.

ER, though?

Loaner?

[Urwen]

ELANOR has loan.

ER, though?

Loaner?


Yea.

[Urwen]

HALETH: Her physical condition is haywire.
ELANOR: Temporary provision of money reveals her (chaotically).
TOLMAN: A nasal in the middle of fractured bird claw, for him.
HALDAR: Note, he is unyielding, in turmoil.

[Urwen]

Sorry if it was lame.

[Pervinca Took]

Sorry if it was lame.

Not at all. It was challenging. Not an easy feat when we have all written and solved so many, and on so many different themes.

[Pervinca Took]

Also, both are youngest-and-oldest-sibling pairs. ;)

[Urwen]

Over to you.

[Pervinca Took]

1. Note, more lowly he sounds.
2. Befuddled elephant sings differently for him.
3. Events a royal initially disturbs, ever so slightly, reveal her.
4. Jaws's unsung spying organ? Not just a hungry predator, though. Actually evil.
5. Send the remainder back! Surround the pen fluid! Adjust very
slightly for him.
6. Elver's parent sings at this time, although a little out of sync, for her.
7. He joins Elizabeth Windsor, once one jumps out to the front.

[Urwen]

2. Sharkey (Shark+Eye-E)
3. Evenstar (EVENTs+A+Royal+So)

[Pervinca Took]

2. Sharkey (Shark+Eye-E)
3. Evenstar (EVENTs+A+Royal+So)

EVENTS + A + R(oyal).

[Pervinca Took]

1. Note, more lowly he sounds.
2. Befuddled elephant sings differently for him.
EVENSTAR: Events a royal initially disturbs, ever so slightly, reveal her.
SHARKEY: Jaws's unsung spying organ? Not just a hungry predator, though. Actually evil.
5. Send the remainder back! Surround the pen fluid! Adjust very slightly for him.
6. Elver's parent sings at this time, although a little out of sync, for her.
7. He joins Elizabeth Windsor, once one jumps out to the front.

[Urwen]

For 6....


EEL - E + NOW?

[Pervinca Took]

For 6....


EEL - E + NOW?

EEL is right, but not E (wrong note) or now (wrong time expression).

[Urwen]

Elenwe (EEL+WHEN-H)


Though then it should have said 'German note'.

[Urwen]

Password: Epesses?

[Pervinca Took]

E: Note, more lowly he sounds.
P: Befuddled elephant sings differently for him.
EVENSTAR: Events a royal initially disturbs, ever so slightly, reveal her.
SHARKEY: Jaws's unsung spying organ? Not just a hungry predator, though. Actually evil.
S: Send the remainder back! Surround the pen fluid! Adjust very slightly for him.
E: Elver's parent sings at this time, although a little out of sync, for her.
S: He joins Elizabeth Windsor, once one jumps out to the front.

No to Elenwe, though. (Also no proof/indication that Elenwe is an epesse, AFAIK).

[Urwen]

Eledhwen (EEL+D+WHEN)

[Urwen]

1. Elessar (E+LESSER, or A+LESSER)

[Urwen]

And 5 is Stinker, where there is INK surrounded by STER, which is almost REST backwards.

[Pervinca Took]

1. Elessar (E+LESSER, or A+LESSER)

'He sounds' covers the altered spelling.

[Pervinca Took]

ELESSAR: Note, more lowly he sounds.
P: Befuddled elephant sings differently for him.
EVENSTAR: Events a royal initially disturbs, ever so slightly, reveal her.
SHARKEY: Jaws's unsung spying organ? Not just a hungry predator, though. Actually evil.
STINKER: Send the remainder back! Surround the pen fluid! Adjust very slightly for him.
ELEDHWEN: Elver's parent sings at this time, although a little out of sync, for her.
S: He joins Elizabeth Windsor, once one jumps out to the front.

[Urwen]

Now, I am struggling with those last two.

[Pervinca Took]

The P clue is pretty easy.

[Urwen]

So we don't need synonyms, we just rearrange ELEPHANT with a different note?

[Pervinca Took]

So we don't need synonyms, we just rearrange ELEPHANT with a different note?

That is correct.

[Urwen]

It's not PANTHAEL again, is it?

[Urwen]

Elephant - E + A

[Urwen]

As for the last one, I found this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Philip,_Duke_of_Edinburgh

[Urwen]

But that doesn't have an S in it.

[Urwen]

If it is assumed that S is not the first letter, we have 'WISE'.


Wait.....

[Pervinca Took]

ELESSAR: Note, more lowly he sounds.
PANTHAEL: Befuddled elephant sings differently for him.
EVENSTAR: Events a royal initially disturbs, ever so slightly, reveal her.
SHARKEY: Jaws's unsung spying organ? Not just a hungry predator, though. Actually evil.
STINKER: Send the remainder back! Surround the pen fluid! Adjust very slightly for him.
ELEDHWEN: Elver's parent sings at this time, although a little out of sync, for her.
S: He joins Elizabeth Windsor, once one jumps out to the front.

Elizabeth Windsor is indeed Queen Elizabeth II, but if you want to know how she comes into the clue, find a picture of a British post box on Google Images.

[Urwen]

You mean this:
https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/GWIAAOSw9fRZu64C/s-l300.jpg

[Pervinca Took]

That's the idea.

[Urwen]

It only says ER.

[Pervinca Took]

Well, maybe that's what you need!

It stands for 'Elizabeth Regina.'

It means it was put there during Elizabeth's reign. The post over here is called the Royal Mail, and officially owned by the Queen, I think.

There are a few post boxes with GR on them, put there in King George's reign.

[Urwen]

I still don't see anything with an initial S.....

[Pervinca Took]

I still don't see anything with an initial S.....

You have already *almost* guessed it. ;)

[Urwen]

When?

[Pervinca Took]

When you correctly guessed one of the others.

[Urwen]

Slinker? Has ER as the last two letters.

[Pervinca Took]

Slinker? Has ER as the last two letters.

And LINKS for joins, and the S (one letter) jumps out to the front.

[Pervinca Took]

ELESSAR: Note, more lowly he sounds.
PANTHAEL: Befuddled elephant sings differently for him.
EVENSTAR: Events a royal initially disturbs, ever so slightly, reveal her.
SHARKEY: Jaws's unsung spying organ? Not just a hungry predator, though. Actually evil.
STINKER: Send the remainder back! Surround the pen fluid! Adjust very slightly for him.
ELEDHWEN: Elver's parent sings at this time, although a little out of sync, for her.
SLINKER: He joins Elizabeth Windsor, once one jumps out to the front.

Over to you!

[Urwen]

Here's the next one:


1. She is made of three elements in disarray.
2. In confusion, praise a dwarf, for him.
3. Endless element in turmoil, inside a ruse. See him!
4. Adhesive, linger! Hear it for her.
5. An unsung cry returns for him.
6. Diminish an artificial sweetener for him (with slight adjustment).
7. A confused Rohirric warrior gains direction, for him.
8. Chaotically, a small herb reveals her.
9. He is made of a turbulence and a bird.

[Pervinca Took]

7. Eorl + S = Elros?

[Urwen]

Nope.

[Urwen]

Also, can you make that riddle now?

[Pervinca Took]

Done - and just guessed by Huinesoron, I'm afraid.

[Pervinca Took]

1. Re No La

Elanor?

[Urwen]

Nope.

[Huinesoron]

BELETH - Be + Tl + He
HALETH - He + Th + La
MELIAN - Am + Ne + Li
NIENNA - Ni + Ne + Na
NINIEL - Ni + Ne + Li
NIENOR - Ni + Re + No

There's probably others.

hS

[Urwen]

NINIEL: She is made of three elements in disarray.
2. In confusion, praise a dwarf, for him.
3. Endless element in turmoil, inside a ruse. See him!
4. Adhesive, linger! Hear it for her.
5. An unsung cry returns for him.
6. Diminish an artificial sweetener for him (with slight adjustment).
7. A confused Rohirric warrior gains direction, for him.
8. Chaotically, a small herb reveals her.
9. He is made of a turbulence and a bird.

[Urwen]

9 is the easiest.

[Pervinca Took]

NIPHREDIL for the password, perhaps?

[Pervinca Took]

Forget that.

9. STORMCROW?

[Pervinca Took]

Password: NICKNAMES.

[Urwen]

Yes. Will add when I get home.

[Pervinca Took]

5. NOM.

Name given to Finrod Felagund by Beor and his followers.

MOAN backwards, with the A unsung.

[Urwen]

NINIEL: She is made of three elements in disarray.
I: In confusion, praise a dwarf, for him.
C: Endless element in turmoil, inside a ruse. See him!
K: Adhesive, linger! Hear it for her.
NOM: An unsung cry returns for him.
A: Diminish an artificial sweetener for him (with slight adjustment).
M: A confused Rohirric warrior gains direction, for him.
E: Chaotically, a small herb reveals her.
STORMCROW: He is made of a turbulence and a bird.

[Huinesoron]

K could be KEMENTARI, which is nearly 'cement, tarry'.

hS

[Urwen]

NINIEL: She is made of three elements in disarray.
I: In confusion, praise a dwarf, for him.
C: Endless element in turmoil, inside a ruse. See him!
KEMENTARI: Adhesive, linger! Hear it for her.
NOM: An unsung cry returns for him.
A: Diminish an artificial sweetener for him (with slight adjustment).
M: A confused Rohirric warrior gains direction, for him.
E: Chaotically, a small herb reveals her.
STORMCROW: He is made of a turbulence and a bird.

[Pervinca Took]

Not seeing an element yet, but I've remembered a nickname beginning with C: CAMLOST.

Hang on, though. We need a ruse as well. I could not find a suitable word. Unless it's CHEAT?

[Pervinca Took]

I might be INGLORION.

Ori? Oin? Groin? Gloin? Nori? Loni?

The only praise element I can see is GLORY without the Y, which leaves the little-known dwarf Noin. :D

[Pervinca Took]

CELEBRINDAL.

A ruse could be a BLIND.

CELEAR is left ....

[Urwen]

I might be INGLORION.

Ori? Oin? Groin? Gloin? Nori? Loni?

The only praise element I can see is GLORY without the Y, which leaves the little-known dwarf Noin. :D


Hint: You used this exact name in one of your recent passwords.

[Pervinca Took]

IORHAEL.

And I thought of Iorhael yesterday but completely forgot to post it.

Ori + (sounds like hail).

[Urwen]

NINIEL: She is made of three elements in disarray.
IORHAEL: In confusion, praise a dwarf, for him.
C: Endless element in turmoil, inside a ruse. See him!
KEMENTARI: Adhesive, linger! Hear it for her.
NOM: An unsung cry returns for him.
A: Diminish a dessert ingredient for him (with slight adjustment).
M: A confused Rohirric warrior gains direction, for him.
E: Chaotically, a small herb reveals her.
STORMCROW: He is made of a turbulence and a bird.

Changed the A clue slightly to make it more accurate.

[Pervinca Took]

I think Equal is a sweetener in America.

If you lose the Q and shuffle it, you can get AULE, but as far as I know that isn't a nickname.

Hang on, though ... ARAW is. Is there a sweetener containing those 4 letters?

[Urwen]

I edited that clue.

[Pervinca Took]

Aranel / Caramel?

[Urwen]

Nope.

[Pervinca Took]

Agarwaen / Aspartame.

[Urwen]

NINIEL: She is made of three elements in disarray.
IORHAEL: In confusion, praise a dwarf, for him.
C: Endless element in turmoil, inside a ruse. See him!
KEMENTARI: Adhesive, linger! Hear it for her.
NOM: An unsung cry returns for him.
AGARWAEN: Diminish a dessert ingredient for him (with slight adjustment).
M: A confused Rohirric warrior gains direction, for him.
E: Chaotically, a small herb reveals her.
STORMCROW: He is made of a turbulence and a bird.

[Pervinca Took]

C - CELEBORN has CON.

His original name WAS Teleporno, I believe.

[Urwen]

The ruse is CON, but it's not Celeborn. The clue says that it's an endless element inside a ruse, which doesn't fit with Celeborn.

[Huinesoron]

CUTHALION.

'Uthali' is an anagram of 'thaliu[m]'.

(Only got this because it's pretty much the only nickname in the set of CO??????N + C??????ON.)

hS

[Urwen]

NINIEL: She is made of three elements in disarray.
IORHAEL: In confusion, praise a dwarf, for him.
CUTHALION: Endless element in turmoil, inside a ruse. See him!
KEMENTARI: Adhesive, linger! Hear it for her.
NOM: An unsung cry returns for him.
AGARWAEN: Diminish a dessert ingredient for him (with slight adjustment).
M: A confused Rohirric warrior gains direction, for him.
E: Chaotically, a small herb reveals her.
STORMCROW: He is made of a turbulence and a bird.

[Urwen]

The last two are Valarin nicknames.

[Pervinca Took]

Hama + L = Mahal.

[Urwen]

NINIEL: She is made of three elements in disarray.
IORHAEL: In confusion, praise a dwarf, for him.
CUTHALION: Endless element in turmoil, inside a ruse. See him!
KEMENTARI: Adhesive, linger! Hear it for her.
NOM: An unsung cry returns for him.
AGARWAEN: Diminish a dessert ingredient for him (with slight adjustment).
MAHAL: A confused Rohirric warrior gains direction, for him.
E: Chaotically, a small herb reveals her.
STORMCROW: He is made of a turbulence and a bird.

[Pervinca Took]

The nearest thing to a herb I could find was Eierplant for ELENTARI.

[Urwen]

You got the right person, but look at her other nicknames.

[Pervinca Took]

Well, first of all I tried to find some kind of herb with 'berry' at the end for Elbereth, but without success.

[Urwen]

https://www.wordplays.com/definition/herbelet

[Urwen]

NINIEL: She is made of three elements in disarray.
IORHAEL: In confusion, praise a dwarf, for him.
CUTHALION: Endless element in turmoil, inside a ruse. See him!
KEMENTARI: Adhesive, linger! Hear it for her.
NOM: An unsung cry returns for him.
AGARWAEN: Diminish a dessert ingredient for him (with slight adjustment).
MAHAL: A confused Rohirric warrior gains direction, for him.
ELBERETH: Chaotically, a small herb reveals her.
STORMCROW: He is made of a turbulence and a bird.

[Urwen]

Also, do I have to say 'it is your turn' in order for people to realize this?!

[Pervinca Took]

Also, do I have to say 'it is your turn' in order for people to realize this?!

If you think I'm going to sacrifice quality time with my dad on holiday to post the password a couple of hours earlier, or ignore the fact that he is now old enough to need some assistance in order to post straight away that I will post it as soon as I am able, you have another think coming.

As it happens, I worked out another one on the coach.

Hope you like it.

1. A French circle spins for him.
2. Burrowing mammals' concerts and insects' pity combine for them.
3. Festival articles for her.
4. A claw and a nun's cap were sedentary, before they spun around for him.
5. Shop changes tune, unwilling, for him.
6. Confused Field Marshal at start of Merseyside peninsula transforms for him.
7. Wander unmethodically for him.
8. A unit of measure, a vowel shift ... shuffle and see her.

[Urwen]

1. Elrond (from Le Rond)

[Pervinca Took]

Nope.

[Urwen]

The only words I could find were ROND and CERCLE.

[Pervinca Took]

You are turning the wrong bit into French.

P.S. Clues 6 and 7 are probably the easiest ones.

[Urwen]

1. Tuor (from Tour)

[Pervinca Took]

1. A French circle spins for him.
2. Burrowing mammals' concerts and insects' pity combine for them.
3. Festival articles for her.
4. A claw and a nun's cap were sedentary, before they spun around for him.
5. Shop changes tune, unwilling, for him.
6. Confused Field Marshal at start of Merseyside peninsula transforms for him.
7. Wander unmethodically for him.
8. A unit of measure, a vowel shift ... shuffle and see her.

None of the answers is Tuor.

Try 6 and 7 first.

[Urwen]

Well, 7 does contain MER, so I think it's EOMER.

[Urwen]

But if neither circle nor spins is in French, then which word is?!

[Pervinca Took]

Well, 7 does contain MER, so I think it's EOMER.

Good idea, but the Field Marshal is an element, not the final answer.

[Huinesoron]

Merseyside includes the Wirral Penninsula, which is probably what the clue references.

The two named field marshals who spring to mind are Haig and Rommel, though also more generally Napoleon had a thing about them. Or it could simply be FM.

hS

[Pervinca Took]

Wirral and Haig are the correct elements.

[Urwen]

Gwaihir

[Pervinca Took]

1. A French circle spins for him.
2. Burrowing mammals' concerts and insects' pity combine for them.
3. Festival articles for her.
4. A claw and a nun's cap were sedentary, before they spun around for him.
5. Shop changes tune, unwilling, for him.
GWAIHIR: Confused Field Marshal at start of Merseyside peninsula transforms for him.
7. Wander unmethodically for him.
8. A unit of measure, a vowel shift ... shuffle and see her.

[Urwen]

Does this password have a theme?

[Pervinca Took]

Yes.

[Urwen]

So what's the deal with 1? Which word are we supposed to translate there?

[Morsul the Dark]

Unless it’s saying “circle spins” in French which could mean revolve or orbit which could mean Orbite or graviter or even “centre sur.”

This is the second time I’ve seen a password with the key letters in the middle of words... was there an agreement somewhere along the line that was ok? Sure there’s a theme but the letters are supposed to be clues once the password is revealed. Also my joke “Belgium” guess was based on seven asterisks with a G in the center spot Belgium was the only location that fit. If we’re breaking format can we at least space the asterisks properly? IE Gwaihir is ***I*** not **I**.

[Pervinca Took]

Yes, there was such an agreement. Made by the starter of the thread himself, on the first post.

I have written dozen of passwords which used the first letter.

I have also written diagonals, all 3rd/4th letter, even one in a chevron shape.

Themes have been expected for quite a while, and I could not make this one work with first letters. I tried.

And no, I could not 'space the asterisks properly' without rehashing a theme I had done before and making something that wasn't new or fresh in any way.

Why on earth don't you try putting the first word of the sentence into French? Crossword books do this all the time. It isn't rocket science.

Then you might think of something similar to orbit.

[Urwen]

But then what should we do with the rest of the clue?

[Pervinca Took]

But then what should we do with the rest of the clue?

I've just told you. In the edit.

[Urwen]

So UN/UNE + OVAL

[Pervinca Took]

Not oval ... closer to orbit.

[Pervinca Took]

The 'wander unmethodically' clue is easier ....

[Urwen]

But we won't be able to guess the password until we solve all the clues, including clue 1, at some point. :p

[Pervinca Took]

1. Orbit is VERY close.
2. Look outside the Middle-earth books.

[Urwen]

Knowing you, it's probably Perry-the-Winkle.

[Pervinca Took]

Despite his roundness, it isn't.

[Urwen]

Gudrun? It has the french UN.

[Morsul the Dark]

I assume the first clue might Star with a U or N and end with the other. Therefore “circling” the rest of the answer

[Pervinca Took]

I assume the first clue might Star with a U or N and end with the other. Therefore “circling” the rest of the answer

No, it's literally a word meaning circle.

UN is correct for the other element.

[Urwen]

I searched google for things similar to orbit and found only oval.

[Huinesoron]

Well, 'orb' means sphere, and certainly falls close, and UN + ORB feels like it should give a useful answer. But I can't actually find one.

Oh - is #7 rove + random = ROVERANDOM?

hS

[Pervinca Took]

1. A French circle spins for him.
2. Burrowing mammals' concerts and insects' pity combine for them.
3. Festival articles for her.
4. A claw and a nun's cap were sedentary, before they spun around for him.
5. Shop changes tune, unwilling, for him.
GWAIHIR: Confused Field Marshal at start of Merseyside peninsula transforms for him.
ROVERANDOM: Wander unmethodically for him.
8. A unit of measure, a vowel shift ... shuffle and see her.

Look at the two answers so far - especially the second one - and try, try to do something with UN + ORB!

[Huinesoron]

Ah! BRUNO is one of the bears from Mr. Bliss (as well as being a Bracegirdle - I get the feeling Tolkien didn't much like the name.)

3... a festival is a GALA, and if you add both English articles, you get Farmer Giles' ill-fated cow GALATHEA.

2. The first half of the clue seems to point at the BADGER-FOLK, but I don't know where the insects come into it.

The password could be BEASTIES if you were feeling cutesy. :)

hS

[Pervinca Took]

BRUNO: A French circle spins for him.
???E???: Burrowing mammals' concerts and insects' pity combine for them.
GALATHEA: Festival articles for her.
???S???: A claw and a nun's cap were sedentary, before they spun around for him.
???T???: Shop changes tune, unwilling, for him.
GWAIHIR: Confused Field Marshal at start of Merseyside peninsula transforms for him.
ROVERANDOM: Wander unmethodically for him.
???S???: A unit of measure, a vowel shift ... shuffle and see her.

Which book are the badger-folk in, hS?

[Huinesoron]

Which book are the badger-folk in, hS?

The Adventures of Tom Bombadil, the poem and the book of the same name, sometimes collected as part of Tales from the Perilous Realm. They share the Bombadilverse with a handful of other strange species, but I can't pin 'insects' pity' to any of them. I guess the closest would be to use BOMBADIL'S, or the ills of the bombad...ier beetle, but that's a significant stretch.

Their father(/husband) is Badger-Brock, who oddly enough could also be a concert (ROCK), but isn't a bug. :)

hS

[Pervinca Took]

The second clue is a very cheeky one.

It was a way of covering an animal of which there are no named examples I know of, but there is someone connected with them.

...

And you know what? There IS a named example of this animal ... I've just thought of it ... but it's too late now, and anyway the cheeky clue/answer is pretty cool. :D

By the way, did you like my CORMACOLINDO ("Goodness me, my lettuce-draining implement") in my last password? It was inspired by your clues. :)

[Huinesoron]

The second clue is a very cheeky one.

It was a way of covering an animal of which there are no named examples I know of, but there is someone connected with them.

...

And you know what? There IS a named example of this animal ... I've just thought of it ... but it's too late now, and anyway the cheeky clue/answer is pretty cool. :D

Well it's making my brain hurt right now, so I'll let it rest for a while before I start yelling 'of course! ANTSMERCY!'. ;)

By the way, did you like my CORMACOLINDO ("Goodness me, my lettuce-draining implement") in my last password? It was inspired by your clues. :)

I did see that at the time, and had an appropriate groan over it. ^_^ Well, when one is mortally afraid of anagrams, one winds up brutalising the English language quite harshly.

hS

[Pervinca Took]

Wrong insects.

Try a more old-fashioned/biblical word for mercy/pity.

[Huinesoron]

Wrong insects.

Try a more old-fashioned/biblical word for mercy/pity.

'Grace' springs to mind, but I can't get it to lead anywhere.

There are butterflies in reasonable proximity to the badger-folk, and there is a named butterfly (if you count Wilwarin the constellation), but... is 'butter' a word for pity? :confused:

For 'T', I'm thinking 'store' as the word for shop, probably changing the E for a different note, but what 'unwillingly' means I couldn't guess.

hS

[Pervinca Took]

Just think of a synonym for unwilling(ly).

And a shop.

...

The word for pity, nowadays, appears more often with a negative suffix, as an adjective meaning the opposite of merciful.

[Urwen]

Ruth?

[Pervinca Took]

Yes.

[Huinesoron]

Okay. We know that E is a descriptive phrase, though what word includes 'RUTH' I have no idea (other than ruthless and Aranruth). The other three, though, are probably personal names.

Here's a list of all the named animals Tolkien Gateway can easily provide, which include at least one of S and T.

Asfaloth
Carcharoth
Firefoot
Gorgumoth
Hasufel
Shadowfax
Sharp-ears
Shelob
Snowmane
Strider
Stybba
Swish-tail
Tevildo
Thorondor
Ungoliant
White-socks
Wise-nose


The obvious go-to for the 'she' clue is SHELOB, and sure enough, she turns out to be a bushel with the U changed for an O.

The only 'unwilling' word that seems at all possible to fit unscrambled into a word is loath. ASFALOTH consists of the shop Asda, with a D>F shift, plus the archaic spelling LOTH.

The set of S names remaining looks like this:

Hasufel
Shadowfax
Sharp-ears
Snowmane
Strider
Stybba
Swish-tail
White-socks
Wise-nose

... which are all horses. I don't think Pervinca would duplicate a species, so my guess is that the S clue is one that didn't make it onto my list. It's clearly a longish name, since it's an anagram of three words.

'Claw' could be talon; spur is a possible too.
'Nun's cap' is probably either habit or (apparently) coif.
'Sedentary' suggests still, or perhaps idle.


(No combination of those appears on the horsey list, of course.)

Coming back now to what seems to be 'badger-folk's ???ruth???', that might be part of truth, but the logical word there would be 'untruth', which a) doesn't point at anything and b) requires an insect known as the unt (archaic plural of ant??? But you said it wasn't ants). The list of words starting with 'ruth' is delightfully chemical - it includes both ruthenium and rutherfordium, as well as the charming adjective ruthenic - but despite how much I would enjoy 'Tom Bombadil versus the Badger Alchemists', I don't think Tolkien ever wrote it.

hS

[Pervinca Took]

BRUNO: A French circle spins for him.
???E???: Burrowing mammals' concerts and insects' pity combine for them.
GALATHEA: Festival articles for her.
???S???: A claw and a nun's cap were sedentary, before they spun around for him.
ASFALOTH: Shop changes tune, unwilling, for him.
GWAIHIR: Confused Field Marshal at start of Merseyside peninsula transforms for him.
ROVERANDOM: Wander unmethodically for him.
SHELOB: A unit of measure, a vowel shift ... shuffle and see her.

Keep COIF and TALON. And if you are sedentary, you are ...? (The ungrammatical one ... the past participle, not the present participle).

If honey-making insects showed the pity, what element would we have to go with RUTH?

Give me a burrowing mammal ... pluralised.

Give me another word for concerts.

[Huinesoron]

Wasn't Badgersgig Bumbleruth the Shire's answer to Engelbert Humperdinck? (The composer, obviously; Hobbits would have no truck with pop.)

(I know I'm going to be kicking myself over this one. I also know it's probably bee, not bumble, but the joke worked better this way.)

If I am sedentary, I am probably seated. COIF + TALON + SEATED contains the phrase 'State of Denial', which is about how I feel. ^_^ It also gives the descriptor 'Old Stone', but the leftover letters are CIFTAAE, which doesn't come anywhere near 'troll'. (Sam Vimes is well represented, though.)

It also runs over by only three letters for FASTITOCALON, and if I remove those letters, I find that sedentary = sat. So there, I sincerely hope, is the answer.

Just a bumbling musician to go!

hS

[Pervinca Took]

BRUNO: A French circle spins for him.
BERUTHIEL'S MOGGIES: Burrowing mammals' concerts and insects' pity - I combine, for them.
GALATHEA: Festival articles for her.
FASTITOCALON: A claw and a nun's cap were sedentary, before they spun around for him.
ASFALOTH: Shop changes tune, unwilling, for him.
GWAIHIR: Confused Field Marshal at start of Merseyside peninsula transforms for him.
ROVERANDOM: Wander unmethodically for him.
SHELOB: A unit of measure, a vowel shift ... shuffle and see her.

Shall I help? :D

MOLES' GIGS + BEE RUTH

(Get a wooden spoon ....)

...

Ok, I've put it in.

MOLES' GIGS + BEE RUTH + I.

Over to you, Huinesoron!

There may be an extraneous I. I'm slipping ... but have now amended the clue to account for it. ;)

[Huinesoron]

Ok, I've put it in.

Over to you, Huinesoron!

There may be an extraneous I. I'm slipping ....

Okay, that is pretty spectacular. [Applause] I might potentially have gotten it if 'beeruth' came first; probably wouldn't have, though!

I will... try to get something up tonight, but from tomorrow I'm in the Land of Intermittent Phone Signal, so you probably won't see much of me. So I'll try and get something short up tonight.

hS

[Huinesoron]

1. - A deed of lesser note in the wet, lit by candlelight.
2. - Wait a second: do not live up by the trees.
3. - One step in... well, here we are!
4. - O no, a bottle - stone third in the sandpit.
5. - "Hell is other vowels! For the lost!", Huor lies.

hS

[Pervinca Took]

Is 1 something to do with the Dead Marshes?

...

'A deed' has one less vowel if it becomes DEAD.

Tricksy candle lights ... tricksy clueses ....

[Huinesoron]

Is 1 something to do with the Dead Marshes?
...

'A deed' has one less vowel if it becomes DEAD.

Tricksy candle lights ... tricksy clueses ....

It is, though I was aiming for 'turn one of the notes in 'deed' into an earlier one.

1. DEAD MARSHES - A deed of lesser note in the wet, lit by candlelight.
2. - Wait a second: do not live up by the trees.
3. - One step in... well, here we are!
4. - O no, a bottle - stone third in the sandpit.
5. - "Hell is other vowels! For the lost!", Huor lies.

hS

[Pervinca Took]

Is the password DEATH?

Changing vowels, you could get HALLAS for the last clue - Cirion's heir - but I can't connect that with a Huor, mendacious or otherwise - or with death.

[Huinesoron]

Is the password DEATH?


1. DEAD MARSHES - A deed of lesser note in the wet, lit by candlelight.
2. ??E?? - Wait a second: do not live up by the trees.
3. ??A?? - One step in... well, here we are!
4. ??T?? - O no, a bottle - stone third in the sandpit.
5. ??H?? - "Hell is other vowels! For the lost!", Huor lies.

Changing vowels, you could get HALLAS for the last clue - Cirion's heir - but I can't connect that with a Huor, mendacious or otherwise - or with death.

It's not Hallas, but changing vowels is correct. You did it wrong, though. :)

hS

[Pervinca Took]

Udun could become Edin, but that's not enough for Rath Dinen. ;)

I wonder if the answer is where Huor is buried, not where he told those ginormous porkies about the size of the fish he caught the previous week.

[Huinesoron]

I wonder if the answer is where Huor is buried, not where he told those ginormous porkies about the size of the fish he caught the previous week.

Ooh, that's a clever idea. ;)

hS

[Pervinca Took]

Ooh, that's a clever idea. ;)

hS

It might be, if the Fen of Serech had anything to do with a revowelled Hell.

[Huinesoron]

It might be, if the Fen of Serech had anything to do with a revowelled Hell.

Hmm, is Huor buried at Serech? Rian didn't think so.

hS

[Pervinca Took]

Hang on ...

Wait a second ... does that mean red letter is the 2nd? And A is one step in? And T is third letter?

Here we are?

Why, we're all dead, and in the BARROW-DOWNS!

[Huinesoron]

Hang on ...

Wait a second ... does that mean red letter is the 2nd? And A is one step in? And T is third letter?

Here we are?

Why, we're all dead, and in the BARROW-DOWNS!

Yes, yes, yes... and yes!

1. DEAD MARSHES - A deed of lesser note in the wet, lit by candlelight.
2. ??E?? - Wait a second: do not live up by the trees.
3. BARROW-DOWNS - One step in... well, here we are!
4. ??T?? - O no, a bottle - stone third in the sandpit.
5. ??H?? - "Hell is other vowels! For the lost!", Huor lies.

^_^

hS

[Pervinca Took]

Hang on ...

Wait a second ... does that mean red letter is the 2nd? And A is one step in? And T is third letter?

Here we are?

Why, we're all dead, and in the BARROW-DOWNS!

Well, 2 can't be either of the Two Trees, but could it possibly refer to the area by them? I guess we're looking for a sort of forest of death, but I can't think of one.

[Huinesoron]

Well, 2 can't be either of the Two Trees, but could it possibly refer to the area by them? I guess we're looking for a sort of forest of death, but I can't think of one.

Nope. :)

What does 'by' mean? And where's the cryptic clue?

hS

[Pervinca Took]

In 5, is FOR a pun on FOUR and a position indicator?

[Huinesoron]

In 5, is FOR a pun on FOUR and a position indicator?

No, it is not. That clue has no position indicator, just a cryptic and straight clue.

... and you've already spotted the straight clue with 'where Huor is buried'.

hS

[Pervinca Took]

Is 4 BATTLE something ... Battle Gardens or something? No O in bottle; an A instead. I'm thinking of where the fallen of the Battle of Bywater were laid. I have a vague memory of it being levelled into a sandpit.

Not sure about the stone, though. And I've an idea Battle Gardens was a name suggested for the restored Bagshot Row, but rejected in favour of New Row.

[Urwen]

5. Haudh-en-Nirnaeth?

[Huinesoron]

Is 4 BATTLE something ... Battle Gardens or something? No O in bottle; an A instead. I'm thinking of where the fallen of the Battle of Bywater were laid. I have a vague memory of it being levelled into a sandpit.

Not sure about the stone, though. And I've an idea Battle Gardens was a name suggested for the restored Bagshot Row, but rejected in favour of New Row.

I'm going to give you that one, because it is the sandpit used after Bywater. The actual name is BATTLE PIT, as in the stone of a fruit.

5. Haudh-en-Nirnaeth?

Yes - but not by that name. (I wanted to, but can you imagine the convoluted mess I would have made of the cryptic clue?!)

1. DEAD MARSHES - A deed of lesser note in the wet, lit by candlelight.
2. ??E?? - Wait a second: do not live up by the trees.
3. BARROW-DOWNS - One step in... well, here we are!
4. BATTLE PIT - O no, a bottle - stone third in the sandpit.
5. ??H?? - "Hell is other vowels! For the lost!", Huor lies.

hS

[Urwen]

Hill of the Slain?

[Pervinca Took]

Nope. :)

What does 'by' mean? And where's the cryptic clue?

hS

'What does BY mean?'

By the trees?

We're looking for where a famous lumberjack was crushed by some trees, then? :D

[Huinesoron]

Hill of the Slain?

Exactly. :)

1. DEAD MARSHES - A deed of lesser note in the wet, lit by candlelight.
2. ??E?? - Wait a second: do not live up by the trees.
3. BARROW-DOWNS - One step in... well, here we are!
4. BATTLE PIT - O no, a bottle - stone third in the sandpit.
5. HILL OF THE SLAIN - "Hell is other vowels! For the lost!", Huor lies.

Hell > Hill, and 'of the slain' == 'for the lost', with a different meaning of 'of'.

'What does BY mean?'

By the trees?

We're looking for where a famous lumberjack was crushed by some trees, then? :D

I mean... actually pretty much yes? Only with a bit more plural?

hS

[Urwen]

Sounds like Saruman and Ents.....

[Pervinca Took]

Does of really have more than one meaning?

I have been thinking about Ents and Isengard too.

And I suppose Saruman was a lumberjack ... by proxy.

But E second letter?

Helm's Deep has ELMS in it ... and didn't lots of orcs die there?

[Huinesoron]

Sounds like Saruman and Ents.....

I have been thinking about Ents and Isengard too.

And I suppose Saruman was a lumberjack ... by proxy.

But E second letter?

Helm's Deep has ELMS in it ... and didn't lots of orcs die there?

You're both very much on the right track, but are these really places people died...?

hS

[Pervinca Took]

You're both very much on the right track, but are these really places people died...?

hS

Well, everywhere populous is, unless it's uniquely an elf-dwelling. (Or the Ainurs' pad). ;)

[Urwen]

Either the Shire, where Saruman, Lotho and Grima died, or the fords of Isen, where Theodred died.

[Pervinca Took]

Either the Shire, where Saruman, Lotho and Grima died, or the fords of Isen, where Theodred died.

The second letter is E, though.

[Urwen]

I think I found it. We're dealing with opposites here. Opposite of live is death, and opposite of up id down, and we get Death Down, a place where Huorns laid Saruman's Orcs to rest. Huorns are trees, and they put them near the eaves of the trees, so by the trees.

[Huinesoron]

Well, everywhere populous is, unless it's uniquely an elf-dwelling. (Or the Ainurs' pad). ;)

Sorry, by 'these' I meant the previous answers.

I think I found it. We're dealing with opposites here. Opposite of live is death, and opposite of up id down, and we get Death Down, a place where Huorns laid Saruman's Orcs to rest. Huorns are trees, and they put them near the eaves of the trees, so by the trees.

Bingo! And for exactly the right reasons too. :) Well done.

1. DEAD MARSHES - A deed of lesser note in the wet, lit by candlelight.
2. DEATH DOWN - Wait a second: do not live up by the trees.
3. BARROW-DOWNS - One step in... well, here we are!
4. BATTLE PIT - O no, a bottle - stone third in the sandpit.
5. HILL OF THE SLAIN - "Hell is other vowels! For the lost!", Huor lies.

Theme: Burial Grounds

The Battle-Pit at least was not a place where anyone was killed, and other than the Dead Marshes, the others are known for the burials, not the deaths that led to them.

Over to... Pervinca, I believe.

hS

[Urwen]

New one?

[Pervinca Took]

Coming soon. I'll try to write it on the train.

[Urwen]

Still waiting.

[Pervinca Took]

Yeah, and I've been stood up on a train with no seat. Have some bloody patience.

[Pervinca Took]

1. She unravels the Grail deal.
2. She's archaically tedious, or is it me, initially? (And subjectively).
3. Norse god confuses her.
4. She's hard (or garbled) of hearing.
5. Hear me versify for her.
6. She bestrides a turbulent river?
7. Mariner's wife is distressed for her.

[Urwen]

1. Galadriel

[Pervinca Took]

GALADRIEL: She unravels the Grail deal.
2. She's archaically tedious, or is it me, initially? (And subjectively).
3. Norse god confuses her.
4. She's hard (or garbled) of hearing.
5. Hear me versify for her.
6. She bestrides a turbulent river?
7. Mariner's wife is distressed for her.

[Urwen]

Can't find any archaic synonym for 'tedious'. :o

[Pervinca Took]

GALADRIEL: She unravels the Grail deal.
2. She's archaically tedious, or is it me, initially? (And subjectively).
3. Norse god confuses her.
4. She's hard (or garbled) of hearing.
5. Hear me versify for her.
6. She bestrides a turbulent river?
7. Mariner's wife is distressed for her.

It's not quite as simple as a synonym of 'tedious.'

Try another clue first.

[Urwen]

The only norse Gods I know are Thor and Odin.

[Galadriel55]

The only norse Gods I know are Thor and Odin.

There's also Loki and Balder and Freyr, and a whole bunch more that google yielded, but none that easily lend themselves to a meaningful anagram. I'm not good with anagrams though.

[Urwen]

And the Mariner's wife is either Elwing or Erendis, but anagramming them yields nothing either.

[Pervinca Took]

There's also Loki and Balder and Freyr, and a whole bunch more that google yielded, but none that easily lend themselves to a meaningful anagram. I'm not good with anagrams though.

It's one of the less obvious ones.

[Pervinca Took]

And the Mariner's wife is either Elwing or Erendis, but anagramming them yields nothing either.

Doesn't it? Try again.

[Urwen]

If we rearrange Erendis, we get Feanor's mom.

[Pervinca Took]

GALADRIEL: She unravels the Grail deal.
2. She's archaically tedious, or is it me, initially? (And subjectively).
3. Norse god confuses her.
4. She's hard (or garbled) of hearing.
5. Hear me versify for her.
6. She bestrides a turbulent river?
SERINDE: Mariner's wife is distressed for her.

CLUE FOR 2: Think of a character who could be described as tedious (whilst having other sterling characteristics as well).

[Urwen]

You said nice characters are boring, and the only nice characters are Elves in Aman and Hobbits. Now, if it didn't say 'she', I'd answer Pippin. Another option could be Primula, but if the rumors are to be believed, she is not that nice. Lobelia is also tedious to an extent, but she is not that nice either.

[Pervinca Took]

You said nice characters are boring, and the only nice characters are Elves in Aman and Hobbits. Now, if it didn't say 'she', I'd answer Pippin. Another option could be Primula, but if the rumors are to be believed, she is not that nice. Lobelia is also tedious to an extent, but she is not that nice either.

No, I didn't say nice characters are boring.

There is a particular reason why this lady *could* be described as tedious, although she is very warm-hearted, kind, and well-intentioned.

[Urwen]

Melian? Her name starts with 'Me'.

[Pervinca Took]

Melian? Her name starts with 'Me'.

Note 'subjectively.'

[Urwen]

Morwen?

[Pervinca Took]

'Me' is not a subject pronoun.

[Urwen]

So 'I'?

[Urwen]

Ioreth?

[Pervinca Took]

GALADRIEL: She unravels the Grail deal.
IORETH: She's archaically tedious, or is it me, initially? (And subjectively).
3. Norse god confuses her.
4. She's hard (or garbled) of hearing.
5. Hear me versify for her.
6. She bestrides a turbulent river?
SERINDE: Mariner's wife is distressed for her.

IORETH.

(Some would say that she boreth).

[Urwen]

River is rio

[Urwen]

Passwords: Gifters?

[Pervinca Took]

Passwords: Gifters?

Good idea, but no.

Not Rio. It's an English river. Well, English and Welsh.

[Urwen]

Gifteds?

[Urwen]

Eowyn? (Wye+On)

Password: Girlies?

[Pervinca Took]

GALADRIEL: She unravels the Grail deal.
IORETH: She's archaically tedious, or is it me, initially? (And subjectively).
R: Norse god confuses her.
L: She's hard (or garbled) of hearing.
I: Hear me versify for her.
EOWYN: She bestrides a turbulent river?
SERINDE: Mariner's wife is distressed for her.

Well done!

There are towns such as Ross-on-Wye and Hay-on-Wye that bestride the Wye River.

[Urwen]

5. Irime (I+Rhyme)

[Pervinca Took]

GALADRIEL: She unravels the Grail deal.
IORETH: She's archaically tedious, or is it me, initially? (And subjectively).
R: Norse god confuses her.
L: She's hard (or garbled) of hearing.
IRIME: Hear me versify for her.
EOWYN: She bestrides a turbulent river?
SERINDE: Mariner's wife is distressed for her.

[Urwen]

Hints for R and L?

[Pervinca Took]

L: look at some family trees.

[Urwen]

I asked for both R and L.

[Pervinca Took]

Just how many female names beginning with R are there? Very few. Start with the name and work backwards. I've already told you it's a lesser-known Norse god.

[Urwen]

Is there a Norse God called Rani?

[Pervinca Took]

No, but there's an anagram of it that is.

[Urwen]

So R is Rian.

[Pervinca Took]

GALADRIEL: She unravels the Grail deal.
IORETH: She's archaically tedious, or is it me, initially? (And subjectively).
RIAN: Norse god confuses her.
L: She's hard (or garbled) of hearing.
IRIME: Hear me versify for her.
EOWYN: She bestrides a turbulent river?
SERINDE: Mariner's wife is distressed for her.

NARI, son of Loki.

[Urwen]

And the last one is Luthien.

[Pervinca Took]

No it isn't.

[Urwen]

Lothiriel?


Of heard must be auditory?

[Urwen]

Or maybe Laura, from aural?

[Pervinca Took]

GALADRIEL: She unravels the Grail deal.
IORETH: She's archaically tedious, or is it me, initially? (And subjectively).
RIAN: Norse god confuses her.
LAURA: She's hard (or garbled) of hearing.
IRIME: Hear me versify for her.
EOWYN: She bestrides a turbulent river?
SERINDE: Mariner's wife is distressed for her.

Over to you.

[Urwen]

Will come up with something soonish.

[Urwen]

1. Noble maiden comes after a note, for her great-grandmother
2. A sick rodent is in disarray, for her.
3. A returning element is inside a distance unit, slightly disturbed. She appears.
4. Sea nymphs spin around, and she is revealed.
5. A dwarf is inside a queue for her.

(Both of the people in the first clue are Tolkien characters)

[Pervinca Took]

1. E-arwen.

[Urwen]

EARWEN: Noble maiden comes after a note, for her great-grandmother
2. A sick rodent is in disarray, for her.
3. A returning element is inside a distance unit, slightly disturbed. She appears.
4. Sea nymphs spin around, and she is revealed.
5. A dwarf is inside a queue for her.

[Pervinca Took]

4. SERINDE, from NEREIDS.

[Urwen]

Nope, it's the other one, who is related to Anardil and Emerwen and Irimon. :p

[Pervinca Took]

Erendis. :)

And ELVES.

[Urwen]

Yes to Erendis, no to the password. Last I checked, Erendis isn't an Elf.

[Pervinca Took]

5. LINDORIE.

DORI inside LINE.

[Urwen]

EARWEN: Noble maiden comes after a note, for her great-grandmother
2. A sick rodent is in disarray, for her.
3. A returning element is inside a distance unit, slightly disturbed. She appears.
ERENDIS: Sea nymphs spin around, and she is revealed.
LINDORIE: A dwarf is inside a queue for her.

[Huinesoron]

A sick rodent could be an ill rat, which gives almost everything we need for ITARILLE.

If the element is Iridium, and the unit is mile, then by disturbing the end of the latter we get MIRIEL.

hS

[Urwen]

EARWEN: Noble maiden comes after a note, for her great-grandmother
2. A sick rodent is in disarray, for her.
MIRIEL: A returning element is inside a distance unit, slightly disturbed. She appears.
ERENDIS: Sea nymphs spin around, and she is revealed.
LINDORIE: A dwarf is inside a queue for her.


No to 2.

[Urwen]

Hint: My aunt had hamsters once, and they were cute.

[Pervinca Took]

MITHRELLAS = ill hamster. Not an aunt of Lalaith, though.

What does EMMEL mean?

[Urwen]

EARWEN: Noble maiden comes after a note, for her great-grandmother
MITHRELLAS: A sick rodent is in disarray, for her.
MIRIEL: A returning element is inside a distance unit, slightly disturbed. She appears.
ERENDIS: Sea nymphs spin around, and she is revealed.
LINDORIE: A dwarf is inside a queue for her.

I mean my real-life aunt. And emmel means 'mother', suprise. :p

Over to you.

[Huinesoron]

And emmel means 'mother', suprise. :p

Now that's an interesting word. Per Ardalambion, it's a variant spelling of an archaic poetic Sindarin word (the common word being naneth). It looks like a cognate to Quenya amillë of the same meaning, so why did Sindarin adopt an entirely different word?

Actually, naneth seems to be a Noldorin neologism, while Sindarin, Quenya, Ilkorin, Qenya, and Gnomish all use variants on amil/emil. But the Hive Mind insists on naneth as the common noun...

Tolkien fan-linguistics is weird, basically.

hS

[Pervinca Took]

1. Dish transforms, initially.
2. Deadly disease loses direction, note, for them.
3. Why, we hear, is a curved top unsung for them?
4. Sounds like it has very little fat on it.

Did Tolkien ever use the word 'emmel,' or has it been put together/worked out from his notes?

[Urwen]

The first one doesn't have a straight clue.

[Pervinca Took]

Yes it does.

[Urwen]

1. Dis?

[Pervinca Took]

1. Dis?

No, it's the initial that transforms.

[Urwen]

Tish? That makes no sense, though.

[Urwen]

I am assumiing 'dish' is a straight clue, then.

[Pervinca Took]

It is both straight and cryptic.

[Galadriel55]

Well, FISH then, which is a dish.

[Galadriel55]

I feel like I should know #2, but it's escaping me. A disease that's bad enough to be described as deadly. First thoughts were smallpox and bubonic plague, but those didn't yield anything useful. Turning to modern epidemiology, there is of course cancer, which is more promising for an anagram, but still gives me no good result. In the field of infectious diseases, ebola is both sufficiently fatal and well-known to be a candidate, but again can't make the letters fit. What does make a nice anagram with the note E is SARS, but unfortunately I doubt the Downs swear check will allow me to post it. I have tried both interpretations of removing direction - taking out a letter and scrambling - but so far no luck.

What else? Lots of things are deadly, but theh don't seem like a good fit for various reasons. Organ failure of any kind will kill you, but unless it's due to cancer it doesn't usually get enough public attention. Lots of infectious diseases can also kill you, but they are either obscure or treatae in an otherwise healthy person and therefore are less likely to be the "deadly" culprit. Heck, diabetes is a horrible killing disease, but since insulin has become available people don't think of it that way. Stroke? Potentially anagrammable, though I wouldn't quite call it a disease in itself so much as a manifestation of disease.

I can sort of stretch Carc from cancer and Eol from ebola, but neither one fits "them". Ugh.

So no proper guesses so far, just frustrated thoughts out loud. Maybe it will help someone though.

[Pervinca Took]

FISH: Dish transforms, initially.
2. Deadly disease loses direction, note, for them.
3. Why, we hear, is a curved top unsung for them?
4. Sounds like it has very little fat on it.

[Urwen]

Password: Food

[Pervinca Took]

Password: Food


Not food, but similar.

Can you guess the theme?

[Urwen]

I assume 2 and 3 are races?

[Pervinca Took]

3 is.