Password

[Pervinca Took]

DAFFADOWNDILLY: At last! A rustic thinks a queen among elves as fair as one of these.
CREAM: A third of this is what we need – due to answer number five? Or at Bombadil’s - for cut knees, perhaps?
L?????? Streaming things for which this housekeeper holds the key? That’s a first!
????L????Wait a second. This is why you might need an understudy in a Shakespearean tragedy. Confused, and flowery.
????O???? Horse with highlights is confused in shining Sindarin. Take nought from the third?
NERWEN'S HAIR: It’s both long and longed for – by a dwarf. Go fourth.

Yes. Bombabil particularly refers to yellow cream, amongst other foodstuffs.

You are right about the positions of the 'red' letters, too.

[Galadriel55]

I am gonna throw out LOCKS and ELANOR for the first two of the remaining clues. Locks, because it sounds like it should be hair. And Elanor because the letter fits.

[Pervinca Took]

I am gonna throw out LOCKS and ELANOR for the first two of the remaining clues. Locks, because it sounds like it should be hair. And Elanor because the letter fits.

It's LOCKS OF someone, but which blondie do we see being a pretty much full time housekeeper?

(Also, locks have keys, and so do housekeepers).

[Pervinca Took]

DAFFADOWNDILLY: At last! A rustic thinks a queen among elves as fair as one of these.
CREAM: A third of this is what we need – due to answer number five? Or at Bombadil’s - for cut knees, perhaps?
L: Streaming things for which this housekeeper holds the key? That’s a first!
ELANOR: Wait a second. This is why you might need an understudy in a Shakespearean tragedy. Confused, and flowery.
????O???? Horse with highlights is confused in shining Sindarin. Take nought from the third?
NERWEN'S HAIR: It’s both long and longed for – by a dwarf. Go fourth.

Oh, sorry! You were guessing ELANOR for the 4th clue.

Quiet rightly. Because you would need an understudy if there were NO LEAR in the building.

Number 3 is LOCKS OF someone, but please say who, (see my post upthread).

[Huinesoron]

It's LOCKS OF someone, but which blondie do we see being a pretty much full time housekeeper?

LOCKS OF GOLDBERRY? I think I remember enumerating her as something yellow when I was figuring out cream.

On no more basis that this and 5 are "very similar", I'm going to guess BOOTS OF BOMBADIL for 5.

hS

[Pervinca Took]

DAFFADOWNDILLY: At last! A rustic thinks a queen among elves as fair as one of these.
CREAM: A third of this is what we need – due to answer number five? Or at Bombadil’s - for cut knees, perhaps?
LOCKS OF GOLDBERRY: Streaming things for which this housekeeper holds the key? That’s a first!
ELANOR: Wait a second. This is why you might need an understudy in a Shakespearean tragedy. Confused, and flowery.
????O???? Horse with highlights is confused in shining Sindarin. Take nought from the third?
NERWEN'S HAIR: It’s both long and longed for – by a dwarf. Go fourth.

Sorry; it's 3 and 6 that are very similar, (as you can see).

Tom's boots are wrong, I'm afraid.

[Pervinca Took]

For the remaining clue:

What's another reason you might need cream, besides cut knees or a dessert?

Think of it, and put it into Sindarin.

[Huinesoron]

For the remaining clue:

What's another reason you might need cream, besides cut knees or a dessert?

Think of it, and put it into Sindarin.

But Pervinca, there are no Sindarin words for "sunburn" or "scones". :confused:

... which actually isn't true, there's an old proto-Sindarin word torn meaning "sunburnt". But I don't think that's going to fly.

Is it just ANOR, the Sun? I'm sure someone calls it yellow sometime.

... ah, and a horse with highlights is a roan. Not a word I knew. :) Is "take nought" just straight-up telling us the answer is "O"?

hS

[Galadriel55]

Ah. Yellow Face. *facepalm*

"Roan" has been hammered into my head by bio classes as an example of genetic codominance, but I have not thought to (accurately) describe it as highlights. Nicely put.

[Pervinca Took]

DAFFADOWNDILLY: At last! A rustic thinks a queen among elves as fair as one of these.
CREAM: A third of this is what we need – due to answer number five? Or at Bombadil’s - for cut knees, perhaps?
LOCKS OF GOLDBERRY: Streaming things for which this housekeeper holds the key? That’s a first!
ELANOR: Wait a second. This is why you might need an understudy in a Shakespearean tragedy. Confused, and flowery.
ANOR: Horse with highlights is confused in shining Sindarin. Take nought from the third?
NERWEN'S HAIR: It’s both long and longed for – by a dwarf. Go fourth.

Yes to all the above, including nought to indicate the letter O, and third for its position.

The sun *is* yellow, isn't it, more or less?

And one talks of sun cream, the preventative ointment.

Not sunburn cream - that would be calamine lotion!

:D

Over to Huey!

[Pervinca Took]

DAFFADOWNDILLY: At last! A rustic thinks a queen among elves as fair as one of these.
CREAM: A third of this is what we need – due to answer number five? Or at Bombadil’s - for cut knees, perhaps?
LOCKS OF GOLDBERRY: Streaming things for which this housekeeper holds the key? That’s a first!
ELANOR: Wait a second. This is why you might need an understudy in a Shakespearean tragedy. Confused, and flowery.
ANOR: Horse with highlights is confused in shining Sindarin. Take nought from the third?
NERWEN'S HAIR: It’s both long and longed for – by a dwarf. Go fourth.

Yes to all the above, including nought to indicate the letter O, and third for its position.

The sun *is* yellow, isn't it, more or less?

And one talks of sun cream, the preventative ointment.

Not sunburn cream - that would be calamine lotion!

:D

Over to Huey!

(P.S. ELANOR was from NO LEAR, in case you missed that bit upthread).

[Huinesoron]

The sun *is* yellow, isn't it, more or less?


[Facepalm] It took me until you posted this - not even me posting the answer! - to remember that "the yellow eye, it burns us" is literally the second-most-quoted LotR line in this house. (First place goes to the movies' "I don't think he's heard of second breakfast, Pip", because the kids have picked up on that one.)

I will try and come up with something today.

hS

[Huinesoron]

Okay! This is not a cryptic puzzle (other than in the sense that it might be confusing). The numbers are just which letter to use; as you can see, I really wanted them to all be the same, but it didn't work out.

1. - Where the last of his line on a hoard laid a curse, (6)
2. - And the same was a hostage and traitor or worse; (6)
3. - Where the eldest awoke and saw mist on his breath, (7)
4. - And where greed-addled minds plotted elder king's death; (6)
5. - Whence came those who bore up the king on his fall, (7)
6. - And the name of the pit in the language of all. (6)

hS

[Urwen]

1. Sarn Athrad?

[Urwen]

I'll also go ahead and throw Maeglin for 2, because 'traitor'. :p

[Urwen]

Or maybe Mim, if the clues 1 and 2 are a pair.

[Galadriel55]

Or maybe Mim, if the clues 1 and 2 are a pair.

So I also read the first clue as likely relating to Mim. What other cursed hoards are there? There is the Doriath loot, but I don't think there's the last of a line involved. Smaug was the last great dragon, but I don't think his hoard was specifically cursed, no one laid a curse on it. I thought that Mim was the only one who fit the bill.

And therefore where would be in NARGOTHROND, while the second would be at AMON RUDH.

If 4 is a reference to Thingol's death by greedy / insulted Dwarves, then in DORIATH.

5 sounds like a reference to 4, but this really doesn't sound like Thingol. What it does sound like is the Dwarves of BELEGOST bearing away their fallen kind Azaghal during the Nirnaeth.

There is very much a Dwarven flavour to this, I think. I thought 3 would be DURIN, but I can't find mention of mist on his breath in Gimli's Durin song, and besides it doesn't have enough letters.

Then, when I first read "pit" my mind went to Tol-in-Gaurhoth. However, this is a Dwarven pit, in the Common speech - and therefore DWARROWDELF?

[Urwen]

I am not the puzzle maker, but I think only the first two answers you gave are right, because the password won't make sense otherwise (unless Huey chose a nonsense password.)

[Huinesoron]

1. Sarn Athrad?

I'll also go ahead and throw Maeglin for 2, because 'traitor'. :p

Are not right, but,

Or maybe Mim, if the clues 1 and 2 are a pair.

has the correct traitor (but is not the answer).

So I also read the first clue as likely relating to Mim. What other cursed hoards are there? There is the Doriath loot, but I don't think there's the last of a line involved. Smaug was the last great dragon, but I don't think his hoard was specifically cursed, no one laid a curse on it. I thought that Mim was the only one who fit the bill.

As far as I know, he is.

And therefore where would be in NARGOTHROND, while the second would be at AMON RUDH.

These are the right locations, but not the right names.

If 4 is a reference to Thingol's death by greedy / insulted Dwarves, then in DORIATH.

That's the reference, but not where his death was plotted.

5 sounds like a reference to 4, but this really doesn't sound like Thingol. What it does sound like is the Dwarves of BELEGOST bearing away their fallen kind Azaghal during the Nirnaeth.

Correct location (well done!), but again the wrong name.

There is very much a Dwarven flavour to this, I think. I thought 3 would be DURIN, but I can't find mention of mist on his breath in Gimli's Durin song, and besides it doesn't have enough letters.

Durin is the eldest here, but is not the answer.

Then, when I first read "pit" my mind went to Tol-in-Gaurhoth. However, this is a Dwarven pit, in the Common speech - and therefore DWARROWDELF?

Once again the right location - but not the right name. Who said Common speech? (Or in other words: all what?)

I am not the puzzle maker, but I think only the first two answers you gave are right, because the password won't make sense otherwise (unless Huey chose a nonsense password.)

As if I would! (I totally would, by accident if nothing else.) But not on this occasion.

Because I'm being picky about precise names, I'll sum up the above hints:

1 - name for Nargothrond
2 - name for Amon Rudh
3 - something about Durin
4 - something about plotting Thingol's death
5 - name for Belegost
6 - name for Moria

hS

[Urwen]

2. Bar-En-Danwedh/Sharbhund?

[Urwen]

Nulukkhizdîn for 1, and Khazad for password?

[Urwen]

5 and 6 are Gabilgathol and Khazad-Dum.

[Huinesoron]

2. Bar-En-Danwedh/Sharbhund?

Nulukkhizdîn for 1, and Khazad for password?

5 and 6 are Gabilgathol and Khazad-Dum.

Oh you are on fire today. (Not actually, despite the name.)

NULUKKHIZDIN - Where the last of his line on a hoard laid a curse, (6)
SHARBHUND - And the same was a hostage and traitor or worse; (6)
3. ??????A- Where the eldest awoke and saw mist on his breath, (7)
4. ?????Z - And where greed-addled minds plotted elder king's death; (6)
GABILGATHOL - Whence came those who bore up the king on his fall, (7)
KHAZAD-DUM - And the name of the pit in the language of all. (6)

hS

[Urwen]

Titles motivate me. :D

As does anything related to...well, us.

[Urwen]

3. Gundabad?

[Urwen]

And that leaves No...I mean, Tumunzahar, as the last one. :D

[Huinesoron]

hS[/QUOTE]

3. Gundabad?

And that leaves No...I mean, Tumunzahar, as the last one. :D


NULUKKHIZDIN - Where the last of his line on a hoard laid a curse, (6)
SHARBHUND - And the same was a hostage and traitor or worse; (6)
GUNDABAD- Where the eldest awoke and saw mist on his breath, (7)
TUMUNZAHAR - And where greed-addled minds plotted elder king's death; (6)
GABILGATHOL - Whence came those who bore up the king on his fall, (7)
KHAZAD-DUM - And the name of the pit in the language of all. (6)

This is a closed set - as far as I can tell, these are the only six dwarven residences named in Khuzdul. I'm slightly surprised Tolkien never wrote down a name for Erebor, but apparently he didn't.

For the first time in my memory, that's a clean sweep for one person - congrats Urwen for all six clues and the password. :) The floor is yours.

hS

[Urwen]

Actually, Galadriel did the heavy lifting, but thank you!

This is a mirror password.

1. It was born where the fighter on the plain was healed. (1)
2. Where the sorrowful one was undone. (2)
3. The joyous one's name came from here. (3)
4. A line of defense was here. (4)
5. Green, and one of the six. (3)
6. The nine first parted ways on its shores. (2)
7. It claimed the father of the forementioned three.(1)

You'll be familiar with clue 1, Huinesoron. And 2, and 3, and there is that pesky 7 too. And I know the answers to every one of them.

[Urwen]

What happened to Pervinca? Is she sick, or just busy?

[Galadriel55]

What happened to Pervinca? Is she sick, or just busy?

Hopefully not sick!


1. NAROG - born at Eithel Ivrin

3. NEN LALAITH?

7. SEA?

[Urwen]

Hopefully not sick!


1. NAROG - born at Eithel Ivrin

3. NEN LALAITH?

7. SEA?


7 is close, but also wrong.

[Urwen]

1. NAROG: It was born where the fighter on the plain was healed. (1)
2. Where the sorrowful one was undone. (2)
3. NEN LALAITH: The joyous one's name came from here. (3)
4. A line of defense was here. (4)
5. Green, and one of the six. (3)
6. The nine first parted ways on its shores. (2)
7. It claimed the father of the forementioned three.(1)

[Pervinca Took]

Huey, you once cleanswept one of my passwords - the I-DRANN one. All in one go, IIRC.

7. Anduin? (Referring to Isildur).

5. Dragon, if there are six named inns?

2. Cabed en Aras?

6. Lindon?

[Urwen]

None are correct.

Well, Anduin is, but not for 7.

[Huinesoron]

None are correct.

Well, Anduin is, but not for 7.

Is Anduin 6, referencing the breaking of the Fellowship (or possibly where the Nazgul split up? I feel like they separated while crossing some river on the way to the Shire). That would make the password [checks] NNNNNNN, apparently. :D:D:D

hS

[Urwen]

NAROG: It was born where the fighter on the plain was healed. (1)
2. Where the sorrowful one was undone. (2)
NEN LALAITH: The joyous one's name came from here. (3)
4. A line of defense was here. (4)
5. Green, and one of the six. (3)
ANDUIN: The nine first parted ways on its shores. (2)
7. It claimed the father of the forementioned three.(1)

[Pervinca Took]

NENNING for the password?

4. SARN FORD, guarded by the Rangers?

[Urwen]

Yes to the password, no to the other.

NAROG: It was born where the fighter on the plain was healed. (1)
E: Where the sorrowful one was undone. (2)
NEN LALAITH: The joyous one's name came from here. (3)
N: A line of defense was here. (4)
I: Green, and one of the six. (3)
ANDUIN: The nine first parted ways on its shores. (2)
G: It claimed the father of the forementioned three.(1)

[Pervinca Took]

I - DUILWEN - 'green river,' and one of a group of six.

[Urwen]

NAROG: It was born where the fighter on the plain was healed. (1)
E: Where the sorrowful one was undone. (2)
NEN LALAITH: The joyous one's name came from here. (3)
N: A line of defense was here. (4)
DUILWEN: Green, and one of the six. (3)
ANDUIN: The nine first parted ways on its shores. (2)
G: It claimed the father of the forementioned three.(1)

[Pervinca Took]

G - GLADDEN?

Although Isildur was a father of four.

(I had thought before that he died in the Anduin - hence my previous (wrong) guess).

[Urwen]

G - GLADDEN?

Although Isildur was a father of four.

(I had thought before that he died in the Anduin - hence my previous (wrong) guess).

That clue says 'forementioned three', not just 'three'.

Now, which father famously had three kids, who are all 'forementioned'?

[Pervinca Took]

Hurin.

Is G the odd one out? Because in a sense he dies of GRIEF?

Or is it the GULF of somewhere that he chucks himself into in the end?

I think his 3 kids each appear in one of the first 6 clues - either in the clue or the answer.

E is TEIGLIN, I think. If so, I was very close with Cabed-an-Aras!

And Carnen, Harnen and Isen could all have been said to have a line of defence at some time, I think.

P.S. Was Turin healed where the Narog began?

[Urwen]

Hurin.

Is G the odd one out? Because in a sense he dies of GRIEF?

Or is it the GULF of somewhere that he chucks himself into in the end?

I think his 3 kids each appear in one of the first 6 clues - either in the clue or the answer.

E is TEIGLIN, I think. If so, I was very close with Cabed-an-Aras!

And Carnen, Harnen and Isen could all have been said to have a line of defence at some time, I think.

P.S. Was Turin healed where the Narog began?

Yes, Turin is the one healed. And Hurin threw himself into Belegaer. What's another name for Belegaer?

Also, I had another answer in mind for 4th clue, but Isen fits as well, so...should I make you find the answer I intended or just put in Isen?

[Urwen]

NAROG: It was born where the fighter on the plain was healed. (1)
TEIGLIN: Where the sorrowful one was undone. (2)
NEN LALAITH: The joyous one's name came from here. (3)
N: A line of defense was here. (4)
DUILWEN: Green, and one of the six. (3)
ANDUIN: The nine first parted ways on its shores. (2)
G: It claimed the father of the forementioned three.(1)

[Galadriel55]

Yes, Turin is the one healed. And Hurin threw himself into Belegaer. What's another name for Belegaer?

I mean, we've gone through a bunch of possibilities... GREAT SEA?

Also, I had another answer in mind for 4th clue, but Isen fits as well, so...should I make you find the answer I intended or just put in Isen?

I for one am game to keep guessing, but I might need a pointer in the right direction. Perhaps a hint about where or when this defense line was.

[Urwen]

NAROG: It was born where the fighter on the plain was healed. (1)
TEIGLIN: Where the sorrowful one was undone. (2)
NEN LALAITH: The joyous one's name came from here. (3)
N: A line of defense was here. (4)
DUILWEN: Green, and one of the six. (3)
ANDUIN: The nine first parted ways on its shores. (2)
GREAT SEA: It claimed the father of the forementioned three.(1)

[Urwen]

I mean, we've gone through a bunch of possibilities... GREAT SEA?



I for one am game to keep guessing, but I might need a pointer in the right direction. Perhaps a hint about where or when this defense line was.


For where, northwestern Eriador. For when, during Elendil's time.

[Pervinca Took]

Is the last one the GLANDUIN?

Oh - *that's* what you meant by a mirror password!

(I made one that shape once and called it a chevron).

[Urwen]

Is the last one the GLANDUIN?

Oh - *that's* what you meant by a mirror password!

(I made one that shape once and called it a chevron).


No, it's shorter than that.

[Pervinca Took]

Lhûn.

A line of defence is specifically mentioned in association with it on Tolkien Gateway.

[Urwen]

NAROG: It was born where the fighter on the plain was healed. (1)
TEIGLIN: Where the sorrowful one was undone. (2)
NEN LALAITH: The joyous one's name came from here. (3)
LHUN: A line of defense was here. (4)
DUILWEN: Green, and one of the six. (3)
ANDUIN: The nine first parted ways on its shores. (2)
GREAT SEA: It claimed the father of the forementioned three.(1)

This one is inspired by my new title, ngl.

And proceed.

[Pervinca Took]

And jolly good it was. But what's your new title?

I have a puzzle stored, but bear with me. It's on my laptop, there isn't enough signal in the bedroom to get it from there to here, and I've injured a tendon in my arm.

[Urwen]

And jolly good it was. But what's your new title?

You didn't notice yet?

[Pervinca Took]

You didn't notice yet?

I have now. I was looking a bit under the user name, not directly under it.

[Pervinca Took]

1. Descriptive moniker for a heavenly person.
2. Bilbo was sent to find this kind of information.
3. Five of these make one line of pentameter in ‘King Lear.’
4. He appears to have shared Shelley’s and Ophelia’s fate.
5. Deceive or lounge – doubly satanic?
6. She’s in the loo, we hear! And quite mixed up.
7. Two prepositions? Goes before the woods, musically.
8. A sailor is a little confused at the parting word.
9. A riser loses, initially, but the sun rises here.
10. Spectacles with publicity inside? Gloomy things, though!

[Urwen]

I'll make an educated guess for 4. Since it says 'he', and not 'she', it has to be Drogo.

[Galadriel55]

1. Angelica?

3. ...iamb?

[Pervinca Took]

I'll make an educated guess for 4. Since it says 'he', and not 'she', it has to be Drogo.

Nope. Other folks drowned besides them pesky Bagginses.

[Pervinca Took]

1. Angelica?

3. ...iamb?

Afraid not.

An iamb would work for any line of strict iambic pentameter, and would not be confined to King Lear.

[Urwen]

4. Isildur?

[Pervinca Took]

4. Isildur?

No.

Didn't he die mostly from orc arrows, BTW?

[Pervinca Took]

I'll give you a hint for the King Lear one. It's from one of Lear's very last speeches. Grief-stricken, he has carried in the dead Cordelia, and it comes after 'Thou'llt come no more.'

And thinking about it, that particular line is in *trochaic* pentameter, not iambic.

[Urwen]

Ecthelion for 4, then?

*looks up people who drowned* There is also Hurin, if one is technical about it. Fall in the sea and you drown. Or one of many nameless Numenoreans, for same reasons.

[Huinesoron]

*looks up people who drowned* There is also Hurin, if one is technical about it. Fall in the sea and you drown. Or one of many nameless Numenoreans, for same reasons.

And Amroth, I think - at least, he jumped off a boat and was never seen again, so "appears" would seem to fit.

#5: deceive or lounge is LIE, but I'm not sure if that's the full answer.

#2: By the chapter title, Bilbo was after INSIDE information.

As for Lear, he has a habit of repeating words (at one point he drops six 'kill's in a row), but I think the one you're after is NEVER.

hS

[Pervinca Took]

1. Descriptive moniker for a heavenly person.
INSIDE: Bilbo was sent to find this kind of information.
NEVER: Five of these make one line of pentameter in ‘King Lear.’
AMROTH: He appears to have shared Shelley’s and Ophelia’s fate.
LIE: Deceive or lounge – doubly satanic?
6. She’s in the loo, we hear! And quite mixed up.
7. Two prepositions? Goes before the woods, musically.
8. A sailor is a little confused at the parting word.
9. A riser loses, initially, but the sun rises here.
10. Spectacles with publicity inside? Gloomy things, though!

Well, Sloth is one of the Deadly Sins, and not lying is one of the Commandments, (which means I'm stuffed, for a start! Well, on the first count).

And Lear also says 'Sa, sa, sa, sa' at one point. Not a whole pentameter of it, though.

[Urwen]

6. Luthien (IN THE LOO)

[Pervinca Took]

1. Descriptive moniker for a heavenly person.
INSIDE: Bilbo was sent to find this kind of information.
NEVER: Five of these make one line of pentameter in ‘King Lear.’
AMROTH: He appears to have shared Shelley’s and Ophelia’s fate.
LIE: Deceive or lounge – doubly satanic?
LUTHIEN: She’s in the loo, we hear! And quite mixed up.
7. Two prepositions? Goes before the woods, musically.
8. A sailor is a little confused at the parting word.
9. A riser loses, initially, but the sun rises here.
10. Spectacles with publicity inside? Gloomy things, though!

Yes - IN THE LU moved round.

[Urwen]

I'm assuming that the 'No' applies to both of G55's guesses up there?

[Pervinca Took]

I'm assuming that the 'No' applies to both of G55's guesses up there?

Yes, it does.

[Urwen]

How about Angela, then?

[Pervinca Took]

1. Descriptive moniker for a heavenly person.
INSIDE: Bilbo was sent to find this kind of information.
NEVER: Five of these make one line of pentameter in ‘King Lear.’
AMROTH: He appears to have shared Shelley’s and Ophelia’s fate.
LIE: Deceive or lounge – doubly satanic?
LUTHIEN: She’s in the loo, we hear! And quite mixed up.
7. Two prepositions? Goes before the woods, musically.
8. A sailor is a little confused at the parting word.
9. A riser loses, initially, but the sun rises here.
10. Spectacles with publicity inside? Gloomy things, though!

No, it's nothing like that.

Think of a 'heavenly' person.

[Urwen]

Earendil?

[Urwen]

Final lines for the password?

[Urwen]

Or perhaps 'Final leaps'?

[Pervinca Took]

F Descriptive moniker for a heavenly person.
INSIDE: Bilbo was sent to find this kind of information. (A box without hinges, key or lid)
NEVER: Five of these make one line of pentameter in ‘King Lear.’ (What has roots as nobody sees?)
AMROTH: He appears to have shared Shelley’s and Ophelia’s fate. (An elven-maid there was of old)
LIE: Deceive or lounge – doubly satanic? (Oliphaunt)

LUTHIEN: She’s in the loo, we hear! And quite mixed up. (Farewell sweet earth and northern sky)
I Two prepositions? Goes before the woods, musically.
N A sailor is a little confused at the parting word.
E A riser loses, initially, but the sun rises here.
S Spectacles with publicity inside? Gloomy things, though!

What was Earendil called in a final line?

[Urwen]

Flammifer?

[Pervinca Took]

FLAMMIFER: Descriptive moniker for a heavenly person. (Earendil was a mariner)
INSIDE: Bilbo was sent to find this kind of information. (A box without hinges, key or lid)
NEVER: Five of these make one line of pentameter in ‘King Lear.’ (What has roots as nobody sees?)
AMROTH: He appears to have shared Shelley’s and Ophelia’s fate. (An elven-maid there was of old)
LIE: Deceive or lounge – doubly satanic? (Oliphaunt)

LUTHIEN: She’s in the loo, we hear! And quite mixed up. (Farewell sweet earth and northern sky)
I Two prepositions? Goes before the woods, musically.
N A sailor is a little confused at the parting word.
E A riser loses, initially, but the sun rises here.
S Spectacles with publicity inside? Gloomy things, though!

[Urwen]

S is SHADOWS (Shows with ad inside)

[Pervinca Took]

FLAMMIFER: Descriptive moniker for a heavenly person. (Earendil was a mariner)
INSIDE: Bilbo was sent to find this kind of information. (A box without hinges, key or lid)
NEVER: Five of these make one line of pentameter in ‘King Lear.’ (What has roots as nobody sees?)
AMROTH: He appears to have shared Shelley’s and Ophelia’s fate. (An elven-maid there was of old)
LIE: Deceive or lounge – doubly satanic? (Oliphaunt)

LUTHIEN: She’s in the loo, we hear! And quite mixed up. (Farewell sweet earth and northern sky)
I Two prepositions? Goes before the woods, musically.
N A sailor is a little confused at the parting word.
E A riser loses, initially, but the sun rises here.
SHADOWS: Spectacles with publicity inside? Gloomy things, though! (Gil-Galad was an Elven-King)

[Galadriel55]

Wow! What a neat idea for a password!

Gonna throw out EAST for where the sun rises.

[Pervinca Took]

FLAMMIFER: Descriptive moniker for a heavenly person. (Earendil was a mariner)
INSIDE: Bilbo was sent to find this kind of information. (A box without hinges, key or lid)
NEVER: Five of these make one line of pentameter in ‘King Lear.’ (What has roots as nobody sees?)
AMROTH: He appears to have shared Shelley’s and Ophelia’s fate. (An elven-maid there was of old)
LIE: Deceive or lounge – doubly satanic? (Oliphaunt)

LUTHIEN: She’s in the loo, we hear! And quite mixed up. (Farewell sweet earth and northern sky)
I Two prepositions? Goes before the woods, musically.
N A sailor is a little confused at the parting word.
EAST: A riser loses, initially, but the sun rises here. (O! Wanderers in the shadowed land)
SHADOWS: Spectacles with publicity inside? Gloomy things, though! (Gil-Galad was an Elven-King)

(Y)EAST indeed!

[Urwen]

N is Namarie, from Mariner. Namarie means 'farewell'.

The I one is hard to find, though.

[Pervinca Took]

FLAMMIFER: Descriptive moniker for a heavenly person. (Earendil was a mariner)
INSIDE: Bilbo was sent to find this kind of information. (A box without hinges, key or lid)
NEVER: Five of these make one line of pentameter in ‘King Lear.’ (What has roots as nobody sees?)
AMROTH: He appears to have shared Shelley’s and Ophelia’s fate. (An elven-maid there was of old)
LIE: Deceive or lounge – doubly satanic? (Oliphaunt)

LUTHIEN: She’s in the loo, we hear! And quite mixed up. (Farewell sweet earth and northern sky)
I Two prepositions? Goes before the woods, musically.
NAMARIE: A sailor is a little confused at the parting word. (Ai laurie lantar lassi surinen)
EAST: A riser loses, initially, but the sun rises here. (O! Wanderers in the shadowed land)
SHADOWS: Spectacles with publicity inside? Gloomy things, though! (Gil-Galad was an Elven-King)

Correct answer, but to be pedantic it's from A MARINE, which accounts for all the letters, with none left over.

There's a Sondheim musical involving woods. ;) Not one of his best, admittedly.

[Urwen]

Into? Or just IN?

And long ago they passed away
In the forest singing sorrowless.

[Pervinca Took]

FLAMMIFER: Descriptive moniker for a heavenly person. (Earendil was a mariner)
INSIDE: Bilbo was sent to find this kind of information. (A box without hinges, key or lid)
NEVER: Five of these make one line of pentameter in ‘King Lear.’ (What has roots as nobody sees?)
AMROTH: He appears to have shared Shelley’s and Ophelia’s fate. (An elven-maid there was of old)
LIE: Deceive or lounge – doubly satanic? (Oliphaunt)

LUTHIEN: She’s in the loo, we hear! And quite mixed up. (Farewell sweet earth and northern sky)
INTO: Two prepositions? Goes before the woods, musically. (From dark Dunharrow in the dim morning)
NAMARIE: A sailor is a little confused at the parting word. (Ai laurie lantar lassi surinen)
EAST: A riser loses, initially, but the sun rises here. (O! Wanderers in the shadowed land)
SHADOWS: Spectacles with publicity inside? Gloomy things, though! (Gil-Galad was an Elven-King)

Right first time. See above for the right song.

Them hoofbeats sank INTO silence.

And over to you! Well played. :)

[Urwen]

1. Immortalized as one of giant statues.
2. He is fallen, literally.
3. They fled, and lived.
4. Iron and sun come together to make him.
5. According to some tales, he got burned alive.
6. He was betrayed.
7. The wise one by another name.
8. Successor of grey one.

[Pervinca Took]

1. Isildur?

5. Feanor?

[Urwen]

ISILDUR: Immortalized as one of giant statues.
2. He is fallen, literally.
3. They fled, and lived.
4. Iron and sun come together to make him.
5. According to some tales, he got burned alive.
6. He was betrayed.
7. The wise one by another name.
8. Successor of grey one.

[Urwen]

Feanor is not 5. Not 5. ;)

Also, from now on, my passwords will (generally) not be cryptic.

[Galadriel55]

8. Dior Eluchil?

[Pervinca Took]

4. Feanor?

FE + ANOR.

2. Melkor?

[Urwen]

2. Feanor?


No.

[Urwen]

ISILDUR: Immortalized as one of giant statues.
2. He is fallen, literally.
3. They fled, and lived.
FEANOR: Iron and sun come together to make him.
5. According to some tales, he got burned alive.
6. He was betrayed.
7. The wise one by another name.
DIOR: Successor of grey one.

[Urwen]

2 is not Melkor either. His fall isn't literal.

[Pervinca Took]

2. Snaga? Or Gandalf?

[Urwen]

Neither.

[Pervinca Took]

Sam fell over when running to the boats to catch Frodo before he left. :D

[Urwen]

Why do I get the feeling you're teasing me...?

[Pervinca Took]

I know Eol fell, but he was pushed.

Maeglin fell, but he had a spear in him, I think?

[Pervinca Took]

Is the password ILL-FATED?

With LOMION for 2.

[Urwen]

ISILDUR: Immortalized as one of giant statues.
LOMION: He is fallen, literally.
L: They fled, and lived.

FEANOR: Iron and sun come together to make him.
A: According to some tales, he got burned alive.
T: He was betrayed.
E: The wise one by another name.
DIOR: Successor of grey one.

:D

[Pervinca Took]

A = Amrod/Ambarto, I believe.

[Pervinca Took]

And TURIN was betrayed by Mîm.

[Urwen]

ISILDUR: Immortalized as one of giant statues.
LOMION: He is fallen, literally.
L: They fled, and lived.

FEANOR: Iron and sun come together to make him.
AMROD: According to some tales, he got burned alive.
TURIN: He was betrayed.
E: The wise one by another name.
DIOR: Successor of grey one.

[Pervinca Took]

L - the only group of people beginning with L that I can think of is the LAIQUENDI. But ill-fated? Unless it's because they're fated to fade and turn rustic - which they perhaps already are compared to other groups of elves?

[Urwen]

No. Search Tolkien Gateway for Elven-related groups beginning with L. That's how I found them. They are also known by a more common name, however.

[Pervinca Took]

Light Elves? I think that term is used in 'The Hobbit,' alongside more 'everyday sounding' names for other kinds of elves, too.

... Lingerers - but to linger isn't to flee.

... LINDAR - the Teleri?

[Urwen]

Light Elves? I think that term is used in 'The Hobbit,' alongside more 'everyday sounding' names for other kinds of elves, too.

... Lingerers - but to linger isn't to flee.

... LINDAR - the Teleri?


None of those. Try subgroups of Noldor. (Or more precisely, Gondolinians), beginning with L.

[Pervinca Took]

Lothlim ("People of the Flower") ?

[Pervinca Took]

Lothlim ("People of the Flower") ?

I have found several unfortunates beginning with E, but none with a 'wise one' connection in their E--- name or any other connected with them.

[Urwen]

So you missed werewolves going 'Om nom nom', eh?

[Pervinca Took]

ISILDUR: Immortalized as one of giant statues.
LOMION: He is fallen, literally.
L: They fled, and lived.

FEANOR: Iron and sun come together to make him.
AMROD: According to some tales, he got burned alive.
TURIN: He was betrayed.
E: The wise one by another name.
DIOR: Successor of grey one.

Is Lothlim wrong, then?

[Urwen]

It is correct.

[Urwen]

ISILDUR: Immortalized as one of giant statues.
LOMION: He is fallen, literally.
LOTHLIM: They fled, and lived.

FEANOR: Iron and sun come together to make him.
AMROD: According to some tales, he got burned alive.
TURIN: He was betrayed.
E: The wise one by another name.
DIOR: Successor of grey one.

[Pervinca Took]

So you missed werewolves going 'Om nom nom', eh?

I missed them eating anyone beginning with an E.

[Urwen]

I missed them eating anyone beginning with an E.


o (https://www.deviantart.com/clint22/art/Finrod-killing-a-werewolf-480084651)

[Pervinca Took]

Orodreth?

And are you referring to real werewolves, or to that Downs game that I couldn't get the hang of?

[Urwen]

Orodreth?

And are you referring to real werewolves, or to that Downs game that I couldn't get the hang of?


Real werewolves.

[Pervinca Took]

Edrahil.

[Urwen]

Close, but no cigar. As I said, they go 'Om nom nom'. Figure out what I am hinting at. I know you can. :D

[Huinesoron]

Close, but no cigar. As I said, they go 'Om nom nom'. Figure out what I am hinting at. I know you can. :D

I think we all know who you're hinting at, but EDENNIL is such an obscure name that I even missed it on a first pass through the Gateway page. Apparently it's from the Athrabeth, which I love, but I don't even recognise it.

hS

[Urwen]

ISILDUR: Immortalized as one of giant statues.
LOMION: He is fallen, literally.
LOTHLIM: They fled, and lived.

FEANOR: Iron and sun come together to make him.
AMROD: According to some tales, he got burned alive.
TURIN: He was betrayed.
EDENNIL: The wise one by another name.
DIOR: Successor of grey one.


And over to Pervinca.

[Pervinca Took]

OK then. Here's one I made earlier.

1. Unlike at least two of her kinsmen, this one is most likely no explorer!
2. Gardener and dream-keeper?
3. Elvish gob****e forced to go commando – and the rest.
4. The facial hue that Gollum dreads?
5. A guy with a salty wife starts to howl, revealing him.
6. Find this fair place in a tunnel in Doncaster!
7. Projectile fruit for a Breeland gob****e.
8. A famous gravestone bears his name.
9. It flows through Paris. It mingles and loses direction. Then it flows again.
10. A warrior. But changed fully at his core, and flipped at either side of it, he is cruel no longer.

[Pervinca Took]

I think we all know who you're hinting at, but EDENNIL is such an obscure name that I even missed it on a first pass through the Gateway page. Apparently it's from the Athrabeth, which I love, but I don't even recognise it.

hS

Did we? I didn't know!

[Urwen]

7. An APPLE a day keeps a Bill away.

What do you mean it's not how it goes? :smokin:

[Pervinca Took]

1. Unlike at least two of her kinsmen, this one is most likely no explorer!
2. Gardener and dream-keeper?
3. Elvish gob****e forced to go commando – and the rest.
4. The facial hue that Gollum dreads?
5. A guy with a salty wife starts to howl, revealing him.
6. Find this fair place in a tunnel in Doncaster!
APPLE: Projectile fruit for a Breeland gob****e.
8. A famous gravestone bears his name.
9. It flows through Paris. It mingles and loses direction. Then it flows again.
10. A warrior. But changed fully at his core, and flipped at either side of it, he is cruel no longer.

I meant I didn't know what you were hinting at. I thought you meant Carcharoth munching Beren's pals.

[Galadriel55]

1. Dora. I'm sure there's a hobbit by that name.


I meant I didn't know what you were hinting at. I thought you meant Carcharoth munching Beren's pals.

Werewolf ate Finrod... aka Nom. Wolf went Nom nom nom...

[Urwen]

3. Saeros.

[Pervinca Took]

1. Dora. I'm sure there's a hobbit by that name.

Werewolf ate Finrod... aka Nom. Wolf went Nom nom nom...

And I even came across that name again, looking up werewolf dinners ....

[Urwen]

4. Yellow Face, aka Anor?

[Pervinca Took]

DORA: Unlike at least two of her kinsmen, this one is most likely no explorer!
2. Gardener and dream-keeper?
SAEROS: Elvish gob****e forced to go commando – and the rest.
YELLOW: The facial hue that Gollum dreads?
5. A guy with a salty wife starts to howl, revealing him.
6. Find this fair place in a tunnel in Doncaster!
APPLE: Projectile fruit for a Breeland gob****e.
8. A famous gravestone bears his name.
9. It flows through Paris. It mingles and loses direction. Then it flows again.
10. A warrior. But changed fully at his core, and flipped at either side of it, he is cruel no longer.

DORA (not) the explorer, Frodo's aunt of many letters.

Just YELLOW.

[Urwen]

5 would involve Aldarion somehow...

[Pervinca Took]

5 would involve Aldarion somehow...

Nope.

[Urwen]

Or Turin, whose wife is literally salty with tears?

[Urwen]

For 9, Seine flows through Paris. Serinde?

[Pervinca Took]

Nothing to do with tears.

Not directly, anyway.

[Pervinca Took]

For 9, Seine flows through Paris. Serinde?

Seine is the correct beginning, but you've added stuff when it says to lose it.

And Miriel doesn't exactly flow.

[Urwen]

Seine loses s and we get EINE, but it doesn't flow.

[Urwen]

Or course, directions could also be N or E.

[Urwen]

Isen?

[Urwen]

2. Sam?

[Pervinca Took]

DORA: Unlike at least two of her kinsmen, this one is most likely no explorer!
2. Gardener and dream-keeper?
SAEROS: Elvish gob****e forced to go commando – and the rest.
YELLOW: The facial hue that Gollum dreads?
5. A guy with a salty wife starts to howl, revealing him.
6. Find this fair place in a tunnel in Doncaster!
APPLE: Projectile fruit for a Breeland gob****e.
8. A famous gravestone bears his name.
ISEN: It flows through Paris. It mingles and loses direction. Then it flows again.
10. A warrior. But changed fully at his core, and flipped at either side of it, he is cruel no longer.

No to Sam.

[Urwen]

Salty synonyms: briny, tart, brackish...

[Pervinca Took]

Not a synonym.

Think biblically.

[Urwen]

Not a synonym.

Think biblically.


Oh, that guy...

[Urwen]

Lotho, then?

[Urwen]

6 is Lindon, and the password is Disyllabic.

[Pervinca Took]

DORA: Unlike at least two of her kinsmen, this one is most likely no explorer!
I Gardener and dream-keeper?
SAEROS: Elvish gob****e forced to go commando – and the rest.
YELLOW: The facial hue that Gollum dreads?
LOTHO: A guy with a salty wife starts to howl, revealing him.
LINDON: Find this fair place in a tunnel in Doncaster!
APPLE: Projectile fruit for a Breeland gob****e.
B A famous gravestone bears his name.
ISEN: It flows through Paris. It mingles and loses direction. Then it flows again.
C A warrior. But changed fully at his core, and flipped at either side of it, he is cruel no longer.

[Urwen]

2. Irmo

[Urwen]

Balin for B one.

[Pervinca Took]

DORA: Unlike at least two of her kinsmen, this one is most likely no explorer!
IRMO: Gardener and dream-keeper?
SAEROS: Elvish gob****e forced to go commando – and the rest.
YELLOW: The facial hue that Gollum dreads?
LOTHO: A guy with a salty wife starts to howl, revealing him.
LINDON: Find this fair place in a tunnel in Doncaster!
APPLE: Projectile fruit for a Breeland gob****e.
B A famous gravestone bears his name.
ISEN: It flows through Paris. It mingles and loses direction. Then it flows again.
C A warrior. But changed fully at his core, and flipped at either side of it, he is cruel no longer.

[Pervinca Took]

Balin for B one.

Nope.

Good idea, though.

[Urwen]

Gorthaur comes to mind for C one.

[Pervinca Took]

Gorthaur comes to mind for C one.

Nothing to do with Gorthaur.

[Urwen]

Then what does 'cruel' mean?

[Pervinca Took]

It means cruel. The clue is cryptic.

[Urwen]

Celegorm?

[Urwen]

Or just Ceorl, by changing the u in CRUEL to O, and rearranging the word?

[Pervinca Took]

No.

I (pretty much) always account for every letter in my clues.

[Urwen]

No.

I (pretty much) always account for every letter in my clues.


No to which one?

[Pervinca Took]

Or just Ceorl, by changing the u in CRUEL to O, and rearranging the word?

That's more like it. And flipping the letters either side of the U.

[Pervinca Took]

DORA: Unlike at least two of her kinsmen, this one is most likely no explorer!
IRMO: Gardener and dream-keeper?
SAEROS: Elvish gob****e forced to go commando – and the rest.
YELLOW: The facial hue that Gollum dreads?
LOTHO: A guy with a salty wife starts to howl, revealing him.
LINDON: Find this fair place in a tunnel in Doncaster!
APPLE: Projectile fruit for a Breeland gob****e.
B A famous gravestone bears his name.
ISEN: It flows through Paris. It mingles and loses direction. Then it flows again.
CEORL: A warrior. But changed fully at his core, and flipped at either side of it, he is cruel no longer.

[Urwen]

B is Bob?

[Pervinca Took]

B is Bob?

No.

[Urwen]

Barrow?

[Pervinca Took]

No.

It's a name that appears on a gravestone.

[Urwen]

Which one? A real-life one?

[Pervinca Took]

Could be.

[Urwen]

Beleg?

[Pervinca Took]

No.

[Urwen]

I am out, then.

[Pervinca Took]

You were warm when you said 'real life.'

[Urwen]

You were warm when you said 'real life.'

Oh.

Oh

It just dawned on me. It was right there the whole time!

Beren. (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Tolkien%27s_grave.jpg)

[Pervinca Took]

DORA: Unlike at least two of her kinsmen, this one is most likely no explorer!
IRMO: Gardener and dream-keeper?
SAEROS: Elvish gob****e forced to go commando – and the rest.
YELLOW: The facial hue that Gollum dreads?
LOTHO: A guy with a salty wife starts to howl, revealing him.
LINDON: Find this fair place in a tunnel in Doncaster!
APPLE: Projectile fruit for a Breeland gob****e.
BEREN: A famous gravestone bears his name.
ISEN: It flows through Paris. It mingles and loses direction. Then it flows again.
CEORL: A warrior. But changed fully at his core, and flipped at either side of it, he is cruel no longer.

Indeed! Well done. And over to you!

[Urwen]

Well, I've managed to come up with this.

1. Son of the one called crafty.
2. [Name], son of...
3. One of leaf-droppers
4. A messenger.
5. ...[Name]
6. A villain by another title
7. Used to deceive her spouse by the one above.
8. One of the four that 'bow to no one'.

Hope you like it!

(P.S: I am not sure 7 fits the theme, but the text implies she does.)

[Pervinca Took]

3. Pippin?

1. Maeglin / Lomion?

[Urwen]

1. Son of the one called crafty.
2. [Name], son of...
PIPPIN: One of leaf-droppers
4. A messenger.
5. ...[Name]
6. A villain by another title
7. Used to deceive her spouse by the one above.
8. One of the four that 'bow to no one'.

Maeglin does fit the theme, too, but I couldn't make him fit all the letters.

[Galadriel55]

6. Enemy?

[Urwen]

6. Enemy?


Nope. It's a more...obscure title.

[Pervinca Took]

7. Eilinel?

6. Bauglir?

[Urwen]

1. Son of the one called crafty.
2. [Name], son of...
PIPPIN: One of leaf-droppers
4. A messenger.
5. ...[Name]
6. A villain by another title
EILINEL: Used to deceive her spouse by the one above.
8. One of the four that 'bow to no one'.

Not Morgoth. The other villain. The one who used Eilinel directly.

[Pervinca Took]

Password: CAPTIVES?

If so, Sam for the last one.

Or maybe CAPTURED?

Or CAPTURES?

[Urwen]

C: Son of the one called crafty.
A: [Name], son of...
PIPPIN: One of leaf-droppers
T: A messenger.
U ...[Name]
R: A villain by another title
EILINEL: Used to deceive her spouse by the one above.
D: One of the four that 'bow to no one'.

[Galadriel55]

1. Celebrimbor, son of Curufin? Both crafty and craftsy.

Oh, and A/U must be AGARWAEN, son of UMARTH.

[Urwen]

CELEBRIMBOR: Son of the one called crafty.
AGARWAEN: [Name], son of...
PIPPIN: One of leaf-droppers
T: A messenger.
UMARTH: ...[Name]
R: A villain by another title
EILINEL: Used to deceive her spouse by the one above.
D: One of the four that 'bow to no one'.

[Pervinca Took]

DAUR for D?

[Urwen]

CELEBRIMBOR: Son of the one called crafty.
AGARWAEN: [Name], son of...
PIPPIN: One of leaf-droppers
T: A messenger.
UMARTH: ...[Name]
R: A villain by another title
EILINEL: Used to deceive her spouse by the one above.
DAUR: One of the four that 'bow to no one'.

[Pervinca Took]

RINGLORD for R?

Could T be THRAIN? He passes on a map and a key, and maybe a message too.

[Urwen]

CELEBRIMBOR: Son of the one called crafty.
AGARWAEN: [Name], son of...
PIPPIN: One of leaf-droppers
T: A messenger.
UMARTH: ...[Name]
RINGLORD: A villain by another title
EILINEL: Used to deceive her spouse by the one above.
DAUR: One of the four that 'bow to no one'.

[Pervinca Took]

Was TURIN ever a messenger?

[Urwen]

Was TURIN ever a messenger?


*slowly points at signature*

[Pervinca Took]

Tuor?

[Urwen]

CELEBRIMBOR: Son of the one called crafty.
AGARWAEN: [Name], son of...
PIPPIN: One of leaf-droppers
TUOR: A messenger.
UMARTH: ...[Name]
RINGLORD: A villain by another title
EILINEL: Used to deceive her spouse by the one above.
DAUR: One of the four that 'bow to no one'

And over to you!

[Pervinca Took]

That was a good 'un, Urwen!

Here you go:

1. Also known as frequent Welsh consonant cluster – one little woman’s tale!
2. It’s as common as gulping, as can be seen within. (But change the fricative).
3. In a very twisted way, a vampire could be seen (or heard) as one of these.
4. Alpha male changes liquid, then uses the same liquid on an (initially compromised) French lawn.
5. A city plunged into chaos by surrounding dynamite? A practice to hurt and dement, in truth!
6. All vowels and a liquid, but he’s no pushover.
7. Does the grub ail and suffer perturbation for this wicked one? At last?

[Urwen]

7. Bauglir?

[Pervinca Took]

1. Also known as frequent Welsh consonant cluster – one little It’s as common as gulping, as can be seen within. (But change the fricative).
3. In a very twisted way, a vampire could be seen (or heard) as one of these.
4. Alpha male changes liquid, then uses the same liquid on an (initially compromised) French lawn.
5. A city plunged into chaos by surrounding dynamite? A practice to hurt and dement, in truth!
6. All vowels and a liquid, but he’s no pushover.
BAUGLIR: Does the grub ail and suffer perturbation for this wicked one? At last?

Indeed!

All the other clues use the first letter for the 'red' one.

[Urwen]

5. Torment (ROME+TNT)

[Urwen]

And 1 is Malbeth (MAL?+BETH)

[Urwen]

2. Nazgul?

[Urwen]

1. Balcmeg?

[Pervinca Took]

1. Also known as frequent Welsh consonant cluster – one little It’s as common as gulping, as can be seen within. (But change the fricative).
3. In a very twisted way, a vampire could be seen (or heard) as one of these.
4. Alpha male changes liquid, then uses the same liquid on an (initially compromised) French lawn.
TORMENT: A city plunged into chaos by surrounding dynamite? A practice to hurt and dement, in truth!
6. All vowels and a liquid, but he’s no pushover.
BAUGLIR: Does the grub ail and suffer perturbation for this wicked one? At last?

Malbeth is incorrect, but you have the correct little woman.

[Pervinca Took]

1. Balcmeg?

Who's that when he's at home? :D

[Urwen]

Who's that when he's at home? :D


https://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Balcmeg


Also, Nazgul is incorrect?

[Pervinca Took]

1. Also known as frequent Welsh consonant cluster – one little woman's tale!
NAZGUL: It’s as common as gulping, as can be seen within. (But change the fricative).
3. In a very twisted way, a vampire could be seen (or heard) as one of these.
4. Alpha male changes liquid, then uses the same liquid on an (initially compromised) French lawn.
TORMENT: A city plunged into chaos by surrounding dynamite? A practice to hurt and dement, in truth!
6. All vowels and a liquid, but he’s no pushover.
BAUGLIR: Does the grub ail and suffer perturbation for this wicked one? At last?

[Urwen]

1. Akallabeth?

Oh! Also Known As + LL + A + BETH

Then the password is ANNATAR!

I see the party, and I crash it
I see a password, and I smash it!
Cause I find that business rather fun!

[Pervinca Took]

AKALLABETH: Also known as frequent Welsh consonant cluster – one little woman's tale!
NAZGUL: It’s as common as gulping, as can be seen within. (But change the fricative).
N In a very twisted way, a vampire could be seen (or heard) as one of these.
A Alpha male changes liquid, then uses the same liquid on an (initially compromised) French lawn.
TORMENT: A city plunged into chaos by surrounding dynamite? A practice to hurt and dement, in truth!
A All vowels and a liquid, but he’s no pushover.
BAUGLIR: Does the grub ail and suffer perturbation for this wicked one? At last?

Absolutely correct, except that AKA = ALSO KNOWN AS.

[Urwen]

Absolutely correct, except that AKA = ALSO KNOWN AS.


I said that....why are you telling me what I already know?! :mad:

[Urwen]

The two As are Ar-Phary and Aule. Now get off my lawn, Ar-Phary! :D

[Urwen]

Well, I am going to bed, so might as well finish it. The last N is Necromancer (NECK ROMANCER).

See you in the morning! :D

[Pervinca Took]

I said that....why are you telling me what I already know?! :mad:

All right. Keep your hair on! I didn't see the first plus sign.

[Pervinca Took]

AKALLABETH: Also known as frequent Welsh consonant cluster – one little woman's tale!
NAZGUL: It’s as common as gulping, as can be seen within. (But change the fricative).
NECROMANCER: In a very twisted way, a vampire could be seen (or heard) as one of these.
AR-PHARAZON: Alpha male changes liquid, then uses the same liquid on an (initially compromised) French lawn.
TORMENT: A city plunged into chaos by surrounding dynamite? A practice to hurt and dement, in truth!
AULE: All vowels and a liquid, but he’s no pushover.
BAUGLIR: Does the grub ail and suffer perturbation for this wicked one? At last?

[Urwen]

So do I get to make a new one?

[Pervinca Took]

Of course!

[Urwen]

This one had to be cryptic, or else it would have been too easy. Every clue except 2 and 7 is cryptic.



1. Alternatively, a limb. For him.
2. He's obsessed with bees.
3. A term pertaining to womb loses a same vowel twice. In chaos, the leader is revealed.
4. A broken boy surrounds a fiream. For him. Take the second.
5. Very insipid regulation, initially, follows a conjuction, for him.
6. A perturbed smithy with direction within reveals the former leader. Take the fourth.
7. The last to join; this is a translation of his name.

[Pervinca Took]

1. Orleg?

2. Beorn?

3. Turin, from uterine?

5. Andvir - AND + V I R.

6. FORWEG - FORGE + W.

Password: OUTLAWS.

Beorn is wrong.

[Urwen]

ORLEG: Alternatively, a limb. For him.
U: He's obsessed with bees.
TURIN: A term pertaining to womb loses a same vowel twice. In chaos, the leader is revealed.
L: A broken boy surrounds a fiream. For him. Take the second.
ANDVIR: Very insipid regulation, initially, follows a conjuction, for him.
FORWEG: A perturbed smithy with direction within reveals the former leader. Take the fourth.
S: The last to join; this is a translation of his name.

[Pervinca Took]

U = ULRAD, I think, although I couldn't find anything to do with bees.

L = ALGUND. LAD around GUN.

S = STRONGBOW.

[Urwen]

U = ULRAD, I think, although I couldn't find anything to do with bees.

His quotes in COH all mention bees.

[Urwen]

ORLEG: Alternatively, a limb. For him.
ULRAD: He's obsessed with bees.
TURIN: A term pertaining to womb loses a same vowel twice. In chaos, the leader is revealed.
ALGUND: A broken boy surrounds a fiream. For him. Take the second.
ANDVIR: Very insipid regulation, initially, follows a conjuction, for him.
FORWEG: A perturbed smithy with direction within reveals the former leader. Take the fourth.
STRONGBOW: The last to join; this is a translation of his name.

And over to you again!

[Pervinca Took]

Fab! Another great password.

I have one half finished. I'll try to post it tomorrow.

I think you've put 2 L's in Algund, (very easily done when you're editing).

[Urwen]

Fab! Another great password.

I have one half finished. I'll try to post it tomorrow.

I think you've put 2 L's in Algund, (very easily done when you're editing).


Fixed, and looking forward to yours!

[Pervinca Took]

1. Hey diddle diddle, this earth’s in the centre.
2. Sandwich a cookie unevenly around a nasally altered farm and see what springs up.
3. They’ll soothe a sore throat, if the liquid is changed.
4. After hesitation, the fairies’ midwife married him.
5. Christmassy, but dangerous here.
6. What knights say, if you play the tape backwards.
7. A drummer loses nothing, but hisses for them.
8. A singer from the Seventies – hoping to sound like this?
9. He’s much nicer when he joins forces with a Moomin.
10. Whether sweet or salt, it cools a hot mouth.
11: Simply the first person.
12. You tie one, K? (Take that away).
13. Almost a dozen monarchs have lost their way.
14. Of French blood?

[Urwen]

6. In?

[Pervinca Took]

1. Hey diddle diddle, this earth’s in the centre.
2. Sandwich a cookie unevenly around a nasally altered farm and see what springs up.
3. They’ll soothe a sore throat, if the liquid is changed.
4. After hesitation, the fairies’ midwife married him.
5. Christmassy, but dangerous here.
IN: What knights say, if you play the tape backwards.
7. A drummer loses nothing, but hisses for them.
8. A singer from the Seventies – hoping to sound like this?
9. He’s much nicer when he joins forces with a Moomin.
10. Whether sweet or salt, it cools a hot mouth.
11: Simply the first person.
12. You tie one, K? (Take that away).
13. Almost a dozen monarchs have lost their way.
14. Of French blood?

[Urwen]

9. Troll?

[Urwen]

13. Elvenkings?

[Pervinca Took]

1. Hey diddle diddle, this earth’s in the centre.
2. Sandwich a cookie unevenly around a nasally altered farm and see what springs up.
3. They’ll soothe a sore throat, if the liquid is changed.
4. After hesitation, the fairies’ midwife married him.
5. Christmassy, but dangerous here.
IN: What knights say, if you play the tape backwards.
7. A drummer loses nothing, but hisses for them.
8. A singer from the Seventies – hoping to sound like this?
TROLL: He’s much nicer when he joins forces with a Moomin.
10. Whether sweet or salt, it cools a hot mouth.
11: Simply the first person.
12. You tie one, K? (Take that away).
ELVEN-KINGS: Almost a dozen monarchs have lost their way.
14. Of French blood?

[Urwen]

11. I, or me?

[Pervinca Took]

1. Hey diddle diddle, this earth’s in the centre.
2. Sandwich a cookie unevenly around a nasally altered farm and see what springs up.
3. They’ll soothe a sore throat, if the liquid is changed.
4. After hesitation, the fairies’ midwife married him.
5. Christmassy, but dangerous here.
IN: What knights say, if you play the tape backwards.
7. A drummer loses nothing, but hisses for them.
8. A singer from the Seventies – hoping to sound like this?
TROLL: He’s much nicer when he joins forces with a Moomin.
10. Whether sweet or salt, it cools a hot mouth.
I: Simply the first person.
12. You tie one, K? (Take that away).
ELVEN-KINGS: Almost a dozen monarchs have lost their way.
14. Of French blood?

[Urwen]

2. Orofarne.

I figured out the theme. :D

[Pervinca Took]

1. Hey diddle diddle, this earth’s in the centre.
OROFARNE: Sandwich a cookie unevenly around a nasally altered farm and see what springs up.
3. They’ll soothe a sore throat, if the liquid is changed.
4. After hesitation, the fairies’ midwife married him.
5. Christmassy, but dangerous here.
IN: What knights say, if you play the tape backwards.
7. A drummer loses nothing, but hisses for them.
8. A singer from the Seventies – hoping to sound like this?
TROLL: He’s much nicer when he joins forces with a Moomin.
10. Whether sweet or salt, it cools a hot mouth.
I: Simply the first person.
12. You tie one, K? (Take that away).
ELVEN-KINGS: Almost a dozen monarchs have lost their way.
14. Of French blood?

Well done. Have an oreo! :D

[Urwen]

14. Sang?

[Pervinca Took]

1. Hey diddle diddle, this earth’s in the centre.
OROFARNE: Sandwich a cookie unevenly around a nasally altered farm and see what springs up.
3. They’ll soothe a sore throat, if the liquid is changed.
4. After hesitation, the fairies’ midwife married him.
5. Christmassy, but dangerous here.
IN: What knights say, if you play the tape backwards.
7. A drummer loses nothing, but hisses for them.
8. A singer from the Seventies – hoping to sound like this?
TROLL: He’s much nicer when he joins forces with a Moomin.
10. Whether sweet or salt, it cools a hot mouth.
I: Simply the first person.
12. You tie one, K? (Take that away).
ELVEN-KINGS: Almost a dozen monarchs have lost their way.
SANG: Of French blood?

Oui.

[Urwen]

1. Hearth?

[Pervinca Took]

1. Hearth?

Non.

[Urwen]

Yeah, I got nothing when it comes to the rest of these.

[Pervinca Took]

Do G55 and Huey have any ideas?

[Galadriel55]

Best I have is RINGS for 7: Ringo - 0 + SSS. I would need some hints for the rest.

[Pervinca Took]

1. Hey diddle diddle, this earth’s in the centre.
OROFARNE: Sandwich a cookie unevenly around a nasally altered farm and see what springs up.
3. They’ll soothe a sore throat, if the liquid is changed.
4. After hesitation, the fairies’ midwife married him.
5. Christmassy, but dangerous here.
IN: What knights say, if you play the tape backwards.
RINGO: A drummer loses nothing, but hisses for them.
8. A singer from the Seventies – hoping to sound like this?
TROLL: He’s much nicer when he joins forces with a Moomin.
10. Whether sweet or salt, it cools a hot mouth.
I: Simply the first person.
12. You tie one, K? (Take that away).
ELVEN-KINGS: Almost a dozen monarchs have lost their way.
SANG: Of French blood?

A hint? RHYME, more than riddling, should be applied to the first clue. ;)

And 4 is cryptic, but quite easily so.

[Urwen]

Hey dol, merry dol, ring-a-ding dillo
Tom Bom, jolly Tom, Tom Bombadillo!

[Huinesoron]

Is 1 literally just MIDDLE (-earth)?

For once I got the Shakespeare in #4 unprompted - the fairies' midwife is Queen Mab. But I can't do anything useful with Ummab or Ermab.

hS

[Pervinca Took]

MIDDLE: Hey diddle diddle, this earth’s in the centre.
OROFARNE: Sandwich a cookie unevenly around a nasally altered farm and see what springs up.
3. They’ll soothe a sore throat, if the liquid is changed.
4. After hesitation, the fairies’ midwife married him.
5. Christmassy, but dangerous here.
IN: What knights say, if you play the tape backwards.
RINGO: A drummer loses nothing, but hisses for them.
8. A singer from the Seventies – hoping to sound like this?
TROLL: He’s much nicer when he joins forces with a Moomin.
10. Whether sweet or salt, it cools a hot mouth.
I: Simply the first person.
12. You tie one, K? (Take that away).
ELVEN-KINGS: Almost a dozen monarchs have lost their way.
SANG: Of French blood?

And ERMAB is *most* of the answer to number 4.

[Galadriel55]

I feel like ERMABWED is not much of an improvement either. :D

[Pervinca Took]

MIDDLE: Hey diddle diddle, this earth’s in the centre.
OROFARNE: Sandwich a cookie unevenly around a nasally altered farm and see what springs up.
3. They’ll soothe a sore throat, if the liquid is changed.
ERMABWED: After hesitation, the fairies’ midwife married him.
5. Christmassy, but dangerous here.
IN: What knights say, if you play the tape backwards.
RINGS: A drummer loses nothing, but hisses for them.
8. A singer from the Seventies – hoping to sound like this?
TROLL: He’s much nicer when he joins forces with a Moomin.
10. Whether sweet or salt, it cools a hot mouth.
I: Simply the first person.
12. You tie one, K? (Take that away).
ELVEN-KINGS: Almost a dozen monarchs have lost their way.
SANG: Of French blood?

Why isn't it?

Sorry, it was RINGS, (as you rightly guessed), not Ringo.

[Huinesoron]

Why isn't it?


Because it's a distressing-looking nonsense wo--

:eek:

Gnomish, Pervinca? What did we do to have Gnomish inflicted on us? ;)

(It means "One-handed", for anyone who doesn't want to check. Early version of Erchamion.)

hS

[Urwen]

'More first lines' for the password?

[Pervinca Took]

MIDDLE: Hey diddle diddle, this earth’s in the centre. (The Ballad of Bilbo Baggins)
OROFARNE: Sandwich a cookie unevenly around a nasally altered farm and see what springs up. (O Orofarne, Lassemista, Carnimirie!)
R They’ll soothe a sore throat, if the liquid is changed.
ERMABWED: After hesitation, the fairies’ midwife married him. (Light as Leaf on Lindentree)

F Christmassy, but dangerous here.
IN: What knights say, if you play the tape backwards. (In Dwimordene, in Lorien)
RINGS: A drummer loses nothing, but hisses for them. ('The Lord of the Rings' / Is one of those things)
S A singer from the Seventies – hoping to sound like this?
TROLL: He’s much nicer when he joins forces with a Moomin. (Troll sat alone on his seat of stone)

L Whether sweet or salt, it cools a hot mouth.
I: Simply the first person. (I sit beside the fire and think)
N You tie one, K? (Take that away).
ELVEN-KINGS: Almost a dozen monarchs have lost their way. (Three Rings for the elven-kings under the sky)
SANG: Of French blood? (I sang of leaves, of leaves of gold, and leaves of gold there grew)

Yes, because I did a 'FIRST LINES' one a while back.

[Galadriel55]

I kinda wanna say FALAS for the Christmassy one, because it's the season with a lot of Fa-la-las, but I don't think it's particularly dangerous, nor can I recall a First Line with it. :D

[Huinesoron]

S could be STING, who has apparently been performing since 1971 (yikes), and has the advantage of being a Tolkien word. I can't pin it to a poem/song though.

hS